Thompson has support of Executive Commitee

If Ted Thompson is worried about all the bashing he is getting from Brett Favre in this Brett Favre instigated ordeal, he can take heart in that his bosses are strongly in his corner. According to JSOnline as most of you have already read, Peter Platten III, President of the Packers’ Executive Committee said in part “we wholeheartedly supported him. There was no disagreement.” We as in the committee and him as in Ted Thompson.

Platten also said “I look at this as a no-win situation. In the end we need to do what’s best for the Green Bay Packers. And that’s what we’re going to do.” What can possibly be wrong with that?

Now, after make noise the last two nights on national television with the Fox interview, Favre, through his agent said they have no plans to file for reinstatement at this time. Maybe Brett is coming to his senses and retires after all. Obviously, he can’t just walk into a another team’s training camp halfway through and expect to have a great year. The rule says he has until week six of the NFL season to change his mind in order to play this year. Can he help somebody at that point? What could the Packers get for him then?

Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of Favre….

By the way, as anyone noticed that the Packers haven’t signed any of their draft picks with training camp opening ten days from now? What is up with that?

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  • Maxaz1

    # admin Says:
    July 21st, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    This Bart Starr comparison is a joke. Starr won five NFL Championships. Period. I don’t care if he threw 5000 interceptions. Five championships is enough said. Favre has one. Any comparisons begin and end right there. Throw all the meaningless stats you want. It was a different game then as well as the defense could actually play defense in the sixties. Stats are for losers. Always have been and always will be.

    This is a joke statement. You continue to ignore the facts about the players that played with Starr. You could have played QB for Packers and with that group and won.

  • Oconomowockid

    Al,
    I will be a Packer fan with or without Favre. I respect Brett Favre and wish him luck on whatever team he goes on to play with. He has earned that respect with me for all he has given the Packers over a third of my life. I actually think these coming seasons it will be more stressful for Thompson lovers like you. I will be cheering for the Packers one way or the other. However, I will be one of those people questioning many things if we are not making a strong Super Bowl run this next year and the year after. If Thompsons boys don’t pan out you better be running cover for them. I will most likely never like Ted Thompson due to the way he has handled this Brett Favre mess. That being said I am a Packer fan now and will be one many years after Ted Thompson is gone.

  • Pete H

    I have to address several issues. First…Montatna played with 2 current Hall of Famers…Lott, Dean, …a Hall of fame coach…Walsh…and 3 more certain Hall of Famers: Rice, Haley, Sanders..potentially more Randy Cross, Roger Craig, etc…so please don’t go there. The Packers best team of ’96 has one more potential HOFer…Butler. If you don’t think Montana ever threw a bad int in a big spot than perhaps that is because you are not a 49ers fan and don’t remember perticular details of playoff games from 20 years ago with teams you don’t root for. Joe Montana, the best there ever was, was 16-7 in the playoffs. 12-10 is pretty f%&ing good in the playoffs. The loser of the Super Bowl is at best 3-1, more likely 2-1. You’re not going to be 15-1 in the playoffs, unless you are Brady, who is 14-4. When you go to the playoffs most years, with sub-championship talent you are GOING to lose. There were at least 3 years where the Packers had to press just to make it. Then there were the pre-championship, losing to Dallas years. Al, its hard to be a championship caliber team every year. Elway wore the same tag you now give Favre all the way up until he had a stellar team Smith, Davis, Sharpe, the line, and a great defense. Manning wore that tag until he had a great defense. Their biggest drawback as QBs was that they carried teams as far as possible, only to be scoffed because they couldn’t do it all. John Elway threw a horrible int in the Super Bowl against Green Bay….. in the end zone. You know why nobody remembers that? Because the Packer scored, took the lead, and then the defense got plowed through to give it back up. Bad picks happen, but championship teams pick up those QBs when they do. Eli was a stud last year..absolutely! He made no mistakes. Brett made one, and noone picked him up! vs. Philly…noone picked him up…vs the Rams noone showed up….vs the Vikes noone showed up….vs the Falcons noone showed up

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    It’s amazing how Favre won all these games with “sub-par” talent. Why couldn’t he win with “sub-par” talent in the playoffs? What is the difference? A true leader makes sure his team “shows up”. At least we can all put this to bed now that it appears Favre has retired again. Thank God.

  • Jon

    Great post, Pete. Based on facts and reason.

    So Joe Montana, the master “winner”, had a playoff record of 16-7? That’s not THAT much better than Favre’s 12-10. Especially when one considers the fact that Montana played for more years on quality, balanced teams that did Favre (Montana’s 49ers have 4 players in the Hall of Fame right now and Jerry Rice and others sure to join them).

  • Jon

    Joe Theismann: “I was disappointed when the Packers basically said to him [Favre], hey look, if you’re going to come back, you’re coming back as a backup. I don’t think that was the right thing to say to someone like Brett.” http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,387483,00.html

    Theismann is a good man, a knowledgeable, level-headed observer. And even he agrees that what Thompson – and by extension Green Bay – did is low class.

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    Theismann is the biggest blowhard ever to grace the airwaves. Not to mention one of the most egotistic players ever. Anybody who would change the pronunciation of his name to promote himself for the Heisman Trophy surely is a “me first” type of player. No wonder he supports Favre.

  • Jon

    Yeah, well, it takes a lowlife to know a lowlife. That’s what makes Theismann’s comments on what Thompson did so compelling.

  • Michael Legat

    Way to use facts and reason there, Jon. Like this statement: “Hell, I’m now convinced Teddie was GLAD the Packers lost to the Giants because he didn’t want to win the Super Bowl with Ron Wolf’s quarterback. I’m not alone in this assessment; it’s all over the Internet.”

  • Pete H

    Did you really ask what the difference between sub-par talent in the regular season and playoffs are? The first difference is that more often than not during those season you have to play on wild card weekend, hence no bye. then you go on the road to a team that has had a bye; tough position to be in and succeed. Yes I know the Giants did it WHOOPEE! It has been a hard thing throughout history…Second, its just a stab, but I have to imagine that PLAYOFF teams are going to be better than a regular season schedule, hence the term playoffs and the better records, so sub-par teams are going to be able to squeak by less often. Lets put it this way…if the Packers last year had split those back to back games at Denver and K.C. people who have thought that relatively successful, but the fact that they split at home against the Bears and Lions is a failure. Clear?

  • Jon

    I got your goat with that one, did I, Mikey?

  • Michael Legat

    No, just blew your credibility. Man, you are tiresome.

  • Jon

    This is not about “credibility”.

    It’s about facts:

    3.2% interception ratio (Favre) vs. 4.4% interception ratio (Starr)
    10 Hall of Famers supporting him (Starr) vs. 1 Hall of Famer supporting him (Favre)

    This is what it’s about, Mikey. It’s high time you start paying attention to these facts.

  • Michael Legat

    Not arguing your facts, just arguing the context. The facts are correct, your supporting argument is still flawed. Favre’s interceptions have directly cost the team playoff wins. That is also a fact.

  • Jon

    When you have historic talent supporting you, like Starr did (10 Hall of Famers), you don’t need to do it all yourself; when you have mediocre talent supporting you, like Favre did (1 Hall of Famer), you need to take risks the other guy (Starr) didn’t have to take.

    Again I ask you (and Al and the other Favre bashers): If the Packers were faced with an “Ice Bowl” situation at the end of the Giants game, with the Packers on the Giants goal line with time for one play and needing a touchdown to win, what would they have done? What COULD they have done?

    You know damn well they would have HAD to give the ball to Favre and ask him to throw a TD (or incomplete or INT), because they could NOT have run it in like Starr did in the same situation in the Ice Bowl!

    And that right there sums up the difference between Starr’s Packers and Favre’s Packers: Starr was a good quarterback on great teams; Favre was a great quarterback on mostly mediocre teams.

    The real mystery is why Starr threw so many interceptions (4.4% of passes; Favre threw only 3.2% of passes) when Starr was on such great teams. Perhaps Starr wasn’t so great after all, but a mere cog in Lombardi’s masterpiece.

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    Five NFL Championships baby, when Favre gets to five, we’ll talk. Until then Favre will always be known for throwing the most interceptions in NFL history. A record that will not likely ever be broken. Throw all the percentages you want out, different era, different game, different rules. And just for the record, Starr completed five key passes on the final drive of the Ice Bowl. Unlike number 4 last January, he took the team on his shoulders and won the game when it was there to be won. Starr would never throw up a wounded bird like Favre did, Starr would give his teammates a chance to win, he was a team player. Favre could never raise his game in the playoffs, in fact, he was worse. Oh well, you can worship the ground he stands on, but his place in NFL history is pretty much set. Record-breaker who couldn’t win the big one. The Shottenhiemer of quarterbacks. Oh and, by the way, Bart Starr still holds second place in NFL history by throwing for 294 consecutive passes without a pick. If Favre went a quarter without a pick it was an accomplishment. Seven picks in a playoff game? I sincerely doubt Starr threw seven picks in his entire playoff career. Five NFL Championships. It don’t mean a thing if you ain’t got the ring.

  • Jon

    “Favre could never raise his game in the playoffs, in fact, he was worse.”

    That’s why he played far better than your “man love” John Elway in the Super Bowl that Denver won (when Green Bay’s defense – I know, anchored by Nose Guard Farve – couldn’t hold).

    That’s Admin Al for you: better is worse.

    You’re not a Packer fan; you’re a Favre-hater; you’re a Teddy boy; admit it.

    I can’t wait for Green Bay to revert to the pre-Favre years; they were better! Right, Al?

  • Jon

    You know, I watched Starr, read all about him, but based on his 4.4% interception ratio (37.5% higher than Favre’s 3.2%), I’m now fairly convinced he was just an OK quarterback who was on a team that won championships. There have been lots: Starr, Plunkett, Theismann, McMahon, Simms, Williams, Rypien, Dilfer, and Johnson (did Bubby Brister win one, too?).

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    If Favre does come back he has a chance at another NFL record. His 147 fumbles are just 14 behind Warren Moon. Go Brett!

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    Yes, all those guys won a championship. ONE championship. Five NFL Championships. Step your game up bro!

  • Jon

    Ted, Ted, calm down. He’s gone. He really is!

  • Jon

    Yes, they won 1, and Starr won 5, but none of them had Starr’s teams. None.

    Indeed, that you utterly fail to grasp that football is a team sport is proof you’ve never put on a pair of shoulder pads.

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    Oh, and thanks for pointing out John Elway stepped up and carried his team to victory. It’s not all done on the field my man, it’s done on the sidelines as well. The old man was the better leader that day.

  • Jon

    Elway was the better leader?

    Other than in your warped mind, how does playing worse make you the better leader?

    Al, I dare you to answer this question:

    Which of the following passing statistics of the 2 Qbsin Super Bowl XXXII is better?

    (A) 25 completions / 42 attempts / 256 yds / 3 TDs / 1 INT

    OR

    (B) 12 completions / 22 attempts / 123 yds / 0 TDs / 1 INT

    A or B, Al.

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    Like I said dipshit, it’s not all won on the field. A leader leads off the field as well. Favre was aloof off the field. Had his own locker-room even. I’m looking forward to a new style of leadership in Aaron Rodgers. Get used to it, because Brett is no more. Not in Green Bay. Maybe he will get those four other NFL Championships with some other team. Good luck with that, Brett.

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    Oh, and to answer your question. “B” would be the correct answer as those are the stats that won the Super Bowl. It don’t mean a thing if you ain’t got that ring.

  • Michael Legat

    I love how this guy keeps comparing us to Ted Thompson, as though being called a general manager who has actually put us in a position to be successful for years following the departure of a future hall of fame quarterback is some sort of slander.

    He’s got his agenda and he’s going to keep beating his drum until one or all of us die of heart attacks.

  • Michael Legat

    And Jon, if you are a Packer fan, you are a horrible one. Post after post, you diminish the accomplishments of every Packer player who didn’t wear number 4, just to prove some sort of twisted point. How about you retire and head down to Mississippi too? After all, it’s all downhill from here. I hear the Vikings bandwagon is wide open these days.

  • Jon

    “Post after post, you diminish the accomplishments of every Packer player who didn’t wear number 4″

    Yeah, that’s why I had to teach all you ignoramuses how great – 11 Hall of Famers – were the teams Starr played on. Because by pointing out the Hall of Famers I was “diminishing” the team.

    In any event, name one Packer player whose accomplishments I “diminished”. If you say Starr, I’ll say Favre – and that ties us at one apiece.

    And by the way, Al, admit you’ve never put on a pair of shoulder pads, will you? It’d make reading your posts a lot easier.

  • Michael Legat

    “And by the way, Al, admit you’ve never put on a pair of shoulder pads, will you? It’d make reading your posts a lot easier.”

    What a pussy argument. Go to the cheap “you never played” move. Who the hell are you?

    And stop with the semantics, you weaselly little troll. You know your whole line of argument is that Favre has carried this team for 17 years, and I ask, carried them where?

  • Jon

    Oh, and Admin, you didn’t “answer” my question.

    I asked you above which is the best “passing statistic” from Super Bowl XXXIII between the Packers and Broncos.

    You lack the decency to admit the obvious answer – A – because those are Favre’s superior numbers from his Super Bowl against Elway (who had crappy numbers – B) and they disprove your claim above that “Favre could never raise his game in the playoffs, in fact, he was worse”.

    I clearly proved you wrong. Favre “ raised his game” in Super Bowl XXXIII and was not “worse” but far “better” than Elway. I proved you wrong; man up and admit it.

  • Michael Legat

    Keep bringing up numbers from 1998. Hanson and the Spice Girls had number one hits back then. Still listening to them?

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    Check the ring on Elway’s finger. I believe it says “Super Bowl Champion”.

  • Jon

    Still refuses to answer my question. Class.

  • Michael Legat

    Um, he did answer your question.

    Jon, do you have any proof that Brett Favre is a better quarterback than Bart Starr? I say he isn’t.

    (sitting back and enjoying)

  • Pete H

    Once again I am stepping in, even though it seems as though the arguments I pose go unaddressed. What was Elway known for before those back to back rings at the VERY END of his career? COULDN’T WIN THE BIG ONE! When was it that he won the big one….Oh a great running game and defense. Elway played like shit that day, save one run. Al, to say that Favre will only be remembered for his record ints is just silly and starts to make the rest of your arguments lose credibility…. Walter Payton has 1 ring, Barry Sanders 0, Dickerson 0, so Franco Harris is the better of those guys right? Mr. Legat carried them where exactly? Didn’t this get addressed earlier. They played in postseasons that they never should have been in, save Favre. As for your stat on Starr with the record streak of no picks. That just says that he threw that many more during the rest of his time right? Whoever it was who brought up that 7 pick game is another ridiculous argument. I guess he should have started handing the ball off when they were down by 20. Did you even watch that game. He doesn’t catch the f@#$ing ball! He throws it. For the last time, has he thrown some bad balls in key spots… yes!!! I think that we have also pointed out many many many other instances to show where all of the quarterbacks who have ever played have. Favre’s get overblown…why? Because on several of those teams…he was virtually all they had!!! If Favre was so aloof off the field and in the locker room, then why have the players kept asking him to return year after year? Give me a break..Make that argument after you’ve been in the locker room because you just don’t know. One last thing, for you to say that he has put us in a position to be successful year after year after Favre is a bit premature. You don’t know any more than I do how good Rodgers will be. Now I have said that I like him so far, but I don’t know!! And about that being successful year after year thing. Wouldn’t the record of the Packers with Favre being better than any other team qualify as being successful??? Isn’t that also what you have been railing on Favre about? Where has he carried us blah blah blah!!! Did you watch those teams in the 80′s and 70′s. That was fun right!!! Oh, its been pretty nice being competitive year after year regardles of coach, GM, or surrounding players. I suppose Doug Pederson, Ty Detmer, Brunell, Mirer or whoever would have led them to the same records right??? Heck they were game managers…Thats why none of them have a job anymore!!!

  • Jon

    “Jon, do you have any proof that Brett Favre is a better quarterback than Bart Starr? I say he isn’t.”

    Sure.

    Favre Career QB Rating: 85.7
    Starr Career QB Rating: 80.5

    Favre Career Interception Percentage: 3.2%
    Starr Career Interception Percentage: 4.4%

    And, when you factor in that Starr played on a Packers team that had 10 Hall of Famers supporting Starr and won 5 NFL Championships in 7 years, whereas Favre played on a Packers team that had 1 Hall of Famer supporting him in 17 years, it makes Favre’s 85.7 QB Rating and 3.2% Interception Percentage – both superior to Starr’s – all the more remarkable.

    Here’s another shocker for you Favre (and fact) haters: Favre won more NFL Championships with what he had than did Starr!

    Starr won 5 NFL Championships with a supporting cast of 10 Hall of Famers. That’s 0.5 NFL Championships per Hall of Fame player (5 ÷ 10 = 0.5).

    Favre won 1 NFL Championship with a supporting cast of 1 Hall of Famer. That’s 1.0 NFL Championships per Hall of Fame player (1 ÷ 1 = 1.0).

    1.0 > 0.5

    Thus, we can say with mathematical certitude that Favre won TWICE as many NFL Championships than did Starr per Hall of Famer on each of their respective teams.

  • Pete H

    Okay, now thats a bit much

  • Jon

    Career QB Rating and Career Interception Percentage is “a bit much”?

    Number of Hall of Fame players on your team is “a bit much”?

    That’s news to me.

  • Pete H

    Another thing there Al…by the simple fact that when comparing how Favre isn’t as good as someone else in whatever category, you seem to use the best EVER in that category to compare him with, goes a long way towards proving the fact that he must be pretty good to have to be compared with the BEST. I mean its Tom Brady with playoff record, Montana with rings, Starr with championships and int streak. Eli and how he played last year. Really is Favre supposed to be the best in every category to be good in your eyes? If so , then why do you need to use more than 1 quarterback to illustrate your point, and if he can’t win the big one, then how does he have a ring??

  • Michael Legat

    I’m still not sure. If only there were some way to use irrefutable statistical evidence with which to compare Starr and Favre, there might be a more convincing argument. Something still tells me that Starr was the better quarterback.

  • Link

    I thought you might get a chuckle out of the jib-jab style Favre lampoon at http://www.supportbrettfavre.com

    Cheers

  • Jon

    “Something still tells me that Starr was the better quarterback.”

    That something is yourself.

    Because in every category traditionally used to rate QBs, Favre leads Starr.

    In only one category does Starr lead Favre, and that’s in NFL Championships. Obviously that’s an important category, but that’s more a TEAM category than a QUARTERBACK category. And when you compare the TEAMS Starr played on to the TEAMS Favre played on, there’s no comparison – Starr played on MUCH BETTER TEAMS and hence those TEAMS naturally won more NFL Championships.

    Indeed, in all the debates about who is the greatest QB of all time, Starr (who has more NFL Championships than anyone – 5) is never mentioned, and yet Dan Marino (who has 0 NFL Championships) is always mentioned. Why? Because level headed observers of the game understand there is much more to winning an NFL Championship than just having a great QB, and that having a great QB is no guarantee of winning an NFL Championship. Look at all the journeymen QBs who have Super Bowl rings, and look at all the great QBs who despite many years in the NFL have 0 or only 1 or 2 championship rings: Marino (0), Kelly, (0), Fouts (0), Namath (1), Favre (1), Young (1), Griese (2), Staubach (2), Elway (2).

  • Michael Legat

    Matt Hasselbeck is a better quarterback than Brett Favre. Discuss.

  • Jon
  • Michael Legat

    You mean Ron Wolf drove Reggie White out of retirement and then moved the team on and didn’t bring him back? That’s it. Ron Wolf is dead to me.

  • Jon

    No, I mean “The widow of Pro Football Hall of Fame defensive end Reggie White says she understands what Brett Favre is going through. . . . White said Favre should go with his feelings and play if he feels able.”

    LOL.

  • doug r

    If after 147 posts an argument remains unresolved it tells me that there is no simple answer. There are pros and cons and undoubtedly after this plays out the fans will blame someone with perfect hindsight. That’s why business is difficult and why those who succeed make lots of money.

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    147 posts before somebody made some sense. Thanks Doug.

  • Jon

    Truth does not depend on a consensus. Never has; never will.

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