The Packers miss Jennings and Grant? They miss Brett effen Favre!!! Only six practices with the Jets and he ran the offense extremely well. I know it is only pre-season but my 4-12 prediction stands. Also, I am really disappointed no one would take me up on my bet that the Pack do not better .500. I guess you all know that I am right.

WOW !! They went in and stunk it up so bad that wall paper is pealing all over packer nation. The need an offensive line and some depth on defense. Come on this is the third year that this is a concern.

I’m not gonna freak over it, but let’s be honest. When both teams were playing their #1 teams, our O-line and D-line did not look good, and this wasn’t exactly a championship caliber team we were facing. We made JT O’Sullivan look pretty good.

After that Bloody Mary w/chaser, I’m very relaxed and do realize it’s preseason. I am, two, looking forward to improved play, but nothing I’ve seen so far has given me the feeling I can do so confidantly.

After waking and baking blueberry muffins and watching the game again, I’m left with little to cheer for other than Nelson’s return potential. The FUNdamentals gave me nothing to cheer for.

I believe it was Max McGhee (RIP) that made the comment about the shoulder-throw tackle, the one Bigby seeks in order to make the highlight film….never mind wrapping-up and bringing to the ground.

I think I’m finally glad Favre was begone-d. His presence masked, or made palatable, basic deficiencies in other areas of the team. Who cared, really, if J Bush gave up the lead, if Favre could get it back in one throw? No running game? No problem, we’ve got Brett.

From what the Packers told me, McCarthy’s “system” is predicated on strong, score-stifling defense and steady, game-managing offence. Individual players be damned, whomever the roster provides can be plugged in where they’re needed.

Yet Rodgers is apologizing for his lack of play-making. Which bus did he get on? He’s not expected, or wanted, to make big plays. His role is to NOT eff up, duh! The Packers enjoyed the financial ride Favre gave them, but decided that steadiness in the QB position is what could get them another Lombardi in the basement.

So, Rodgers, shut up and take the sack, throw the ball out of bounds, and dink and dunk and hand off your way to a paycheck. Get those gunslinger notions out yer head!

matt, if you look back, you’re not moving on…ever.

Very insightful post, Dra. I’m shocked you are not analyzing for ESPN. Shocked I tell you. That “He a loser!” line is an instant classic. Amazing stuff.

By the way, it’s Rodgers, not Rogers.

I love these posts – preseason is the time to make mistakes, the time to throw a game or two by staying vanilla, the time to drop a few passes in the end zone, take a few sacks, throw your quarterback under the bus (or buses depending on how many people sack him at once). BF, BF, BF – those who have drank the BF cool aid really believe he could be the preseason savior. If you are putting that much stock in the preseason then you are ignorant. The last time the Cowgirls went to the SB (and won) they lost all four of their preseason games in glorious fashion – they looked like a bunch of third graders and the fans were looking for heads on a stake. Course, most of them don’t remember that cause the season ended the way it did.

We may not be any better then a .500 team this year, but most of these players aren’t going anywhere. Do I like waiting for a Championship? Of course not, but I’m also a realist – BF is not the answer to this team’s problems – not long term. It could be managment and the fact that they think having a large pocketbook is the answer to a winning team instead of the big name acquisitions, could be the coaching (nah, I think McCarthy is a pretty solid guy), could be TT picked the wrong guy to lead this team in A-Rod, but non of this will be answered until the completion of the season. So speculate all you like, but there WILL be big changes at the end of this season, you can bank on it. For now, speculation is a waste of time and energy. But this sure is a great place to let out our frustrations and vent a little isn’t it?

Regardless of what happens – and FYI, I still cheered my team through the 70′s and 80′s dry spells just like the rest of you – 4-12 or 12-4 or anywhere in between I say GO PACK!! We’ll get it figured out as fans and as a team – we’re just not spoiled anymore, that’s all…

Well stated, AATP. I remember finally winning a division title in ’95 after going without for 23 straight years. Those were lean times indeed, but it made that division crown in 1995 oh so sweet. Today’s Packer fans are indeed spoiled. But with the talent we have on today’s team expectations should be high. Would they be even higher if Favre were still the QB? Not in my opinion, but that probably puts me in the minority here. That’s fine with me. I still think Rodgers is the man to lead this team for years to come. Only time will prove me right or wrong.

GO PACK!!

Admin – well stated… After yesterday’s inability to keep Aaron off his back I was starting to wonder if they have any of the guys they need to create a cohesive group. Now, Aaron was slow getting rid of the ball a few times and the pocket collapsed completely, Aaron needs to throw the ball downfield out of bounds when he has that kind of time to sit back there and over think. I think the defense did everything it could to give the offense a chance to score, but that O-Line just kept getting overpowered on the run and the pass.

I believe I may have drank the same kool-aid as you CheesyD as I really like AR. Realistically, two drops cost us two touchdowns. He did put the ball where it needed to be but the guys just weren’t holding on to the easy ones. So the problems with our offense don’t start with Aaron alone. The team needs to pick it up a little and start using these preseason games to prove they can catch, block, run, defend and such. The O-Line, to me, is the biggest question mark on this team right now as well as our depth on the D-Line and in the secondary. This based on what I saw today watching the game on NFL Network. Hopefully the waiver wire will have some small gems available for TT to make a move on – it’s obvious we need the depth…

Maybe the waiver wire will have a quality starting quarterback. As Dick Enberg would say, “Oh, My!!!!”

“the backup quarterbacks suck”

All the quarterbacks suck.

“the receivers can’t catch”

They – like the rest of the team – are just going through the motions collecting a paycheck. That’s what happens when you rip their hearts out by trading their only chance to go deep in the playoffs. Reap what you sow.

Jon, I’m just as angry with TT as you are. But it’s over with. If it doesn’t work we’ll know soon enough. Meantime I’m a Packer fan and want what they’re doing to work. I don’t think the negativity helps. The coach and players deserve our support. The Farve haters blame him for the playoff loss even though Brady, Romo, and Garcia didn’t even do as good as he did (with the youngest team in the NFL, including the coach). Forget them.

Mark,

I agree with you. I’m just responding to the Packers fans who are shocked at how bad we looked against San Francisco. I’m pointing out it’s really not that shocking. This is the same team (less one important player) that ended last season with 28 yards rushing, at home, in a title game, in running conditions, and whose defense in that game – especially the secondary – got shredded. Maybe we really had no business being in that game in the first place, and simply over achieved last year. I think we may have. If I’m right, we’re in for a long haul, because the guy largely responsible for us over achieving last year is now wearing green and white.

Hey AllAbout…
the O-Line is the same one that Favre and the Pack went 13-3 behind last year. And apparently they “upgraded” over Colledge by adding Sitton. Only variable here is Rodgers…we’ll just see, it is only pre-season. The sky isn’t falling for me, yet…but it might be shakin’ loose…

Yeah TRIP, you ain’t kidding… That scenario is definitely not a laughing matter at all. So far A-Rod has been holding up pretty well, but like you said, once the machine is turned on full speed we’ll just see what kinda punishment he can take if the OL doesn’t wake up and start playing with some conviction. If AR goes out, it’ll be a long season for sure – there is good news in all of this though – the Bears and Viqueens still suck!!!

“PAD LEVEL”? 2 yrs Flag Football, 2 yrs Pop Warner, 4 yrs high school, 3-4 yrs college, and 2-3 yrs in the pros and they’re talking “pad level”? What were the coaches doing during the game; talking about where they were going to have dinner after the game? I’m a little embarrased down here in Texas.

It’s kind of funny how it’s preseason practice (er, a game) when the team looks good but all hell is breaking loose, last year was an overachievement, and everyone left in GB is an idiot when they don’t win a preseason game (er, practice).

Jon,

That isn’t necessarily true. No one player makes the team. If we win less games, it is because the team didn’t play as well, or the schedule is harder, or any number of reasons. Each season is distinct and stands by itself. Last year was last year, and this year is this year.

I’m concerned with the offense.

We lit up the Bungles who were the 27th ranked defense in 2007. This year, they have a new defensive coordinator, so their defense should struggle for at least a few games into the season.

The 49ers were the 25th ranked defense and made our offense look terrible. Admittedly, Driver and Lee didn’t help things. Then again, we’ve dealt with WR/TEs dropping passes for years. (Just look at Bubba’s dropped TDs over the years).

Thank goodness it’s the preseason. Get it fixed quickly or when we play a top 15 defense, we’ll really be in trouble. Or worse when we play a top 5 defenses like the Bucs and Colts.

With the talent we have on offense, there’s no excuses. With Woodson, Harris, Pickett, Tauscher, and Clifton all getting older the team can’t afford to wait 2-3 years to get back to last year’s offensive production.

Jon, I disagree with some of the guys disagreeing with you, lol. Last year was not an overachievement and this team stands alone. You CAN point towards Favre because Favre carried the team to a 6-1 start with hardly NO help from the running game, the pre-Grant stint. He had a great season, the O-Line was stable, Grant ran well, starting in week 8 or so. ANY TEAM IN THE NFL, can easily drop 4-5 games with a new, inexperienced QB, no matter how good his prospects.

In 1991, Steve Young inherited a 14-2 team, he got hurt and amazingly his backup led the team on a 5-game winning streak, the team still ended up 10-6. And my fellow Packers, I don’t think we have that backup, yet. A part of the prestige of Favre is, you get him for 16 games. We can’t trust that legacy with Rodgers, so we have to brace for anything.

If an 8-8 season is an overachievement due to the guy wearing green and white, that simple means 13-3 can heavily been attributed to him, its not an overachievement. It’s just a different way of thinking about it. We just have a different team because the leadership has changed from a 16-17 year vet to a 3-year pro with no starting experience. If Favre was still with the Packers, we would all be expecting another run deep in the playoffs, point blank. But just like Steve Young, Rodgers probably will start 4-4, even though I wish he starts 8-0.

The purpose of preseason is not to “win” but to assess individual and group performance. And individually and as a group, GB looked like crap – regardless of the score. So your comparison to the Patriots’ preseason “record” is moronic; right in line with your other posts.

That doesn’t surprise me, Moss did say he was nervous.

Ah, Jon… why am I not surprised that yet another point has sailed cleanly over your head.

You never fail to disappoint.

ROFL!!

I was out of town Saturday night so I didn’t get to watch the game, but everything I’ve read today sounds like it was a disaster.

It’s not right to read much into preseason. I didn’t get overly excited when Rodgers looked pretty good in the opener so I’m not overly down now that he had a poor game.
Concerned would be the best way to describe it.

Hopefully they fix the problems from Saturday night, but I must admit my expectations for this team do not involve another NFL championship game.

SleazyD,

Au contraire. I responded precisely to your “point”. That’s why you’re pithed off.