McCarthy drops the axe, Nolan the man?

Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy thought about it for a week then decided to fire pretty much the entire defensive coaching staff after a season that saw his defense fail him game after game. The Packers’ defense was a major disappointment this year when going into the season it was supposed to be the crutch, along with a strong running game, for first-year starting quarterback Aaron Rodgers. As it turned out, Rodgers was the only who played up to par.

Defensive coordinator Bob Sanders and all his position coaches except Winston Moss were fired. Sanders had a scheme that is outdated and unable to adjust to injuries and in the end even opponents offensive game plans. The Packers’ defense was at its worst when the pressure was on. Game after game against some of the best teams in the NFL Rodgers and the offense had the lead or was tied with four minutes to go. Not once could the defense come up with the big stop to win the game. Granted, Rodgers was given a chance to win some of those games, two of which ended with Mason Crosby missed field-goals, but in many cases the Packers used the clock and their final timeouts to take the lead and leave the game in the defense’s hands, crippling a late offensive drive that should never even occur. Big mistake.

Now the Packers have cleansed themselves from the Jim Bates era completely and once and for all. The early word is former San Francisco 49ers coach Mike Nolan is the front-runner to get the job of replacing Sanders. If that is true the Packers would probably become a 3-4 defense which I think is just great. The pundits say the Packers linebackers can’t play that scheme, but I think just the opposite is true. This is just what A.J. Hawk needs. A scheme that lets him just play football. Plus it will likely get Desmond Bishop on the field and his athleticism has never been questioned. I have always thought that the Packers’ current defensive scheme was too restrictive to players, there was too much thinking and not enough reacting meaning not enough playmaking, certainly not along the defensive line and linebackers.

My first choice was Rod Marinelli, but when you really think about it, how can you give a guy who went 0-16 a job as important as defensive coordinator? I would love it if Marinelli would take the job as defensive line coach, however. My second choice was Romeo Crennel, but it appears that is not going to happen. I also wouldn’t have minded seeing Eric Mangini, but Mangini would also have brought the 3-4 to town and appears headed to Cleveland as head coach.

I like the 3-4 because I think we have the players to play it, I think Hawk can be a playmaker and I think Poppinga can use his pass-rushing skills more and I like Bishop. Not to mention Nick Barnett. Four quality guys right there just waiting to make plays. I’m probably getting ahead of myself because PFT is not always right and my first guess is McCarthy disappoints us all and hires Winston Moss. I will be wild if that happens. If you have the quality candidates available that are available now and hire Moss instead, you might as well apply for unemployment now for 2010. Could McCarthy be that stupid? We are about to find out. One thing is sure, there is no way he can spin Winston Moss into a defensive coordinator. With four games to go in the 2008 season I called for Sanders to be fired and Moss to be given a four game job application. At the time I thought Moss would maybe fire up the defense down the stretch. But that didn’t happen and with the list of available coaches out there, there is no way Moss is more qualified than any of them and it would be a travesty if he got the job now.

One thing is sure, this is the biggest hire in McCarthy’s career to date. If he gives it to the unproven Moss, the Packers are doomed. I sure hope PFT is right this time.

  • AATP

    Al, do you mean the 4-3 Defense? I think this year we were running the 3-4 weren’t we? Anyway, I like your assessment – if we went with 4 LBs and 3 DLs it would give teams a new look for next year and would allow us to use our LBs as DLs on certain plays to really confuse the offense by bringing a LB up to the line of scrimmage much the way they use Ware in Dallas. We do have the athleticism we need to go from sideline to sideline and make plays. It would also give us quickness we currently lacked when running backs would reach the second level.

  • Roy Jamison

    Al, I disagree that the system is outdated. It will work with the right players. TT never got the right set of players to adequately help this system. I will say again that TTs interest has been rebuilding the offense while putting band-aids on the defense. This is from a guy who was a linebacker and should know better. GBs biggest problem is never developing a big picture of how to build an offense and implement a scheme to fit a multitude of players. It is insane to keep firing DCs. Sanders was a loyal advocate of the Bates scheme. That is what MM bought into when he brought these guys aboard. I blame TT for the KGB debacle, the Frosty the Punt man mess, and also for not having adequate backups for this scheme. Let’s face it, Jenkins was not never a super man at DE, but he was ok. Ok is not going to make it in the NFL. Drafting Harrell should have helped, but again TT ignored all the warning signs of injuries with this guy and went forward and drafted him. TT probably will have to pull some rabbits out of his hat to save his butt. If Barnett doesn’t recover quickly that is a a big setback. He needs a great draft. And now because of bad defensive draft choices, probably needs to sign a FA which he never does.

  • Pack4life

    Nolan or Nothin. Mike Nolan and his suit and tie. The reason for his dismissal in SF is mostly related to Alex Smith. The 3-4 will work fine here Chillar,Poppinga,Hawk Thompson, Hunter, Bishop and perhaps Barnett. In today’s NFL quick turn arounds are a lot easier see Miami,Atlanta and even AZ
    A ball control offensive attack will help the new DC.
    We have a the most QB poor division in Pro Football, so winning 10 or more games per year should be a given. Anyone who watched the Viking debacle vs the Eagles knows that. We should be primed to win now. The Pack still has a short yardage/Redzone problem and he cant blame Bob Sanders for it.

  • AATP

    But we can blame Sanders for not having his D ready to defend when it counts the most – at the end of games…

  • Roy Jamison

    I haven’t seen any scouts getting fired for picking Harrell. Oh, maybe TT picked him all by himself! MM can blame himself for committing to a system not fully supported by a GM who fiddled while Rome burned.

  • CheesyD

    Noaln would be a good choice. The 3-4 is needed in Green Bay.

  • Roy Jamison

    Keith Butler: Has been Pittsburgh’s linebackers coach since 2003 and an NFL assistant since 1999 after nine seasons as a coach on the college level. The Steelers’ 3-4 scheme has produced good to great defenses and is one of the longest-running success stories in the NFL. The 52-year-old Butler probably is the best candidate for any team looking for a disciple of Steelers defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau.

  • JeffN

    I’m fine with the 3-4. We have enough good linebackers to do it. Depends which D-coordinator they bring in. Hopefully Picket can take up 2 blockers in the scheme. From what I hear that is one of the pre-requisites of running the 3-4. Your guy in the middle has to eat up 2 blockers on most plays.

  • Rick

    Switching to a 3-4 concept during the later part of the season would have been a good idea or a modified nickel so we could get the best players out there; BUT we are now into the off season and we need to figure the best run stop scheme because that is what we will have to do to win the North Division.
    Whether it be a 3-4 or a 4-3 I personally say that we have the WRONG personal for a 3-4 for our basic set. Pickett is NOT a Nose Tackle. We don’t have a real Nose Tackle on the team. Jenkins and Kaupman would work as DE in the scheme but really which linebacker is a true “tweener”?
    Stick with what we have and make it very very expensive on the Titans to keep and GET HAYNESWORTH. We are under the cap for just such an opportunity. We have great draft position for the OLine but lets get Haynesworth and let Herrell be an expensive lesson as a back up with Jolly(assuming he stays out of jail)
    Now that is a North Division Champion and possible first round bye in the playoffs. :)

  • Mel e Mel

    As much as I would like Albert in a Packers uniform, TT is the GM not Ron Wolf. The 3-4 allows you to be competitive on Defense for a long period of time. You can lose players via free agency and not skip a beat. Pittsburgh lost Joey Porter to the Fins and replaced him Harrison now the defensive player of the year. Kris Jenkins was not a NT until this year. Also switching to a 3-4 forces TT pick up some components in Free agency. A lot of folks say the Pack will take Ohio State CB Malcolm Jenkins in the draft. Whoever the Packers take at 9 should be a starter on Day 1 of training camp, no more speculation picks like Harrell, Nelson, Brohm, et al. That means drafting production over potential.

  • Larry

    I need some enlightenment! In the last 50 yrs of Packer football I can’t remember us using the 3-4 as a base alignment. Always thought that strange because I tho’t the 3-4 was a run stopper and we’ve gone up against Sanders, Peyton, Sayers, and even back to Gallimore and many more “Runners” in our Division. Also, I’ve always been under the impression that cold clime teams have good running attacks to be able to move the ball outdoors late in the season in GB and CHI. So……why haven’t we seen it in our Division? Could it be that there just aren’t enough good “noses” to go around?

  • Roy Jamison

    There might not be enough good GMs to go around.

  • JeffN

    Larry I think it has more to do with defensive philosophy. Basically I think it’s happened that way more by chance. We just always ended up with coaching staffs in GB that go with the 4-3. Although I would agree that one advantage to going with the 3-4 is Linebackers are much easier to acquire than defensive lineman whether it be via the draft or FA. Just taking 1 DT off the field probably requires you to carry 2 less DL on your rostor and 2 more LB on your rostor. The more I think about it Picket could probably do an adequate job at being a nose tackle in the 3-4. I think the transition would favor the defensive players we currently have. I’m kind of excited to see how it effects our defense if it actually happens.

    We could probably argue until we are blue in the face about which scheme actually stops the run or pass better. Not that any of us have ever done that on here before. Although I think it comes down to how well your players are coached and how well your players execute in a given system that ultimatly determines how well you stop the run or the pass.

  • Roy Jamison

    From Benjamin Hoffman NY Times:
    The crux of Nolan’s failure was an offensive line he never managed to construct. Despite the high-profile signing of Jonas Jennings, a top left tackle, and the drafting of Joe Staley, also a left tackle, in the first round a year ago, the team was unable to protect its quarterbacks throughout Nolan’s tenure.

    Firing Nolan will obviously not fix that problem. Singletary will inherit a team that doesn’t have an answer at quarterback, doesn’t have a competent offensive line and has a defense that looks good on occasion but gets overwhelmed late in games when the offense has failed to maintain possession.

    The move seems to be typical of the John York era of ownership: Blame has to be assigned without any real moves for progress.

  • Pete H

    the Pack did use a 3-4 for a little while late 80′s early 90′s. During the Tim Harris, Paup, Holland, Noble times. They were solid against the run if I remember, and the linebackers made alot of plays, we got alot of sacks out of Paup, Harris and Tony Bennett, but were still just awful against the pass….more out of a lack of talent. Mossy Cade ring a bell? With the D backs there now, it might be worth while.

  • Larry

    Oh, yeah, Infante days. Just looked at that 1990 roster, oh my God!!!!!!!! Never should have brought it up……………!

  • Pete H

    Those were some lean times

  • Roy Jamison

    Jauron must have been a teenager when he was with Green Bay…
    In his nine years with the Packers, Jauron worked under three different head coaches. He joined the organization in 1986 under Forrest Gregg, and was retained when Lindy Infante took over in 1988 and in 1992 when Mike Holmgren was named Green Bay’s head coach. The Packers reached the playoffs each of Jauron’s last two years, and in his nine seasons in Green Bay, the defense made 168 interceptions in 143 games.

    A former NFL defensive back, Jauron began his coaching career in 1985 with the Buffalo Bills under Hank Bullough. The following season he moved to Green Bay to join Gregg’s staff, along with Tom Coughlin. Coughlin and Jauron were together on the Packers’ coaching staff for the 1986 and ’87 seasons.

  • JeffN

    With Nolan being the front runner for the job I have heard now that he has run both the 3-4 and the 4-3 for his base package over the course of his years as a DC. So not sure what the Pack would be running if he does end up being the guy.

  • Roy Jamison

    As bad as things look in a 6-10 season, they could be worse. We could have a president that loves Eric Mangini. How do you hire a coach then a GM? That sounds totally nuts to me.

  • TRIP

    I guess I can entertain this conversation for this off-season. But in reality, I’m just waiting for M&M to be fired next year. If he can turn it around, more power to him, I just don’t see the signs, unless TT really makes a pull this off-season to vamp his player personnel.

  • TRIP

    Perhaps this is an audition year for Nolan (head coach position in 2010?)

  • JeffN

    Doubt Nolan will ever be a head coach again. I think DC is as far as his career will take him, but it’s entirely possible. If their going to get this deal done tho I wish they would hurry up and do it. I’m pretty anxious to find out who the new guy actually is going to be.

  • Lombardi

    I think I was the first one on this blog to call for switching to the 3-4. There is just too much room for mediocrity in the 4-3, you need too many exceptional players to make it excel. In a salary-cap world, is that a reasonable expectation? Can we expect a Reggie White on every Packers team? Think about this: the Packers have traditionally succeeded by being really good at unconventional strategies and tactics. That started with the power sweep. It continues with zone blocking. Now let’s add the 3-4.