Oh, 3rd quarter, I quit watching, the refs say………………. Pittsburg wins!!!!

How exactly did the refs “blow that game”? that excuse for every team every game is getting real old. Yes it was the refs fault that Wilson plowed into the holder. It was the refs fault that Warner threw a first and goal duck at the end of the half. It was the refs who let Holmes go forty yards with 20 seconds left. I didn’t see one call that “anti-Cards”. There were 2 challenges, but they were extremely difficult calls that they got right. The Cardinals…..the lesser team…..LOST THAT GAME. the Steelers…the better team….WON THAT GAME. As you said Al, it was like watching a Packer game….Super Bowl victors don’t do what they did, both at the end of the half and game. Refs my ass!

Can someone tell me, after all the friggin’ flags that were thrown, why Harrison was allowed to remain in the game after slugging another players several times? Plus, they called some ticky-tack offensive holding stuff, that was kinda nutty. I thought the Steelers would win with a better defense, but Warner did a nice job most of the game.
Big Ben came thru when he had to and that’s the difference maker. Regardless of what the rest of the game was or wasn’t, Ben has to throw a perfect pass in triple coverage. I’d say the Cardinals had pretty good coverage for the space that pass had to be thrown in.

i can’t see warner retiring after that game. it is the same deal that favre wen through. he got SO close. and it ended up bing all for not. leinart is garbage, and warner just proved this year he has still got plenty of “it”. i hope he comes back, and i hope he stays in AZ.

Hey Pete H., I gave up in the 3rd quarter after the Steeler RB shoved his hands into the facemask of the Cardinal DB and they called facemasking on the DB. Just seemed ticky tacky calls and close calls all went Pittsburg’s way………….. Not the only one who thinks so.

I get what you guys are saying, but when calls seem to be going one way early, those watching will tend to look for that type of thing, then missing what could be missed calls for the other team. I don’t have examples because I wasn’t looking either way, nor did I care who won. I did think the Edge call was chintzy, but chintzy happens in every game. The game itself waas pretty sloppy, for a Super Bowl, and when that happens you are usually going to get chintzier calls. When teams are crisper, less calls. We just heard this all year here about the Packers. There were a ton of chintzy calls, but they sure didn’t earn themselves any leeway, and neither did the Cards.

I’m critized for being negative about the officiating, but I agree the calls overall favored the Steelers (they usually do not favor the underdogs). There were a few that could have gone either way, but the two obvious mentions above on the TD return at the end of the half (the play that determined the outcome of the game) were inexcusable – but so was the throw to start with (Harrison dropping into coverage on the goal was tough to figure). The holding calls on the Cards were valid from what I saw but I saw the same takedown that led to a big gain that was not called on the Steelers (Gandy under the microscope, but nobody on Cards with Harrison’s rep).

Bottom line is the officials do impact the outcome of the games on a regular basis, but hopefully it evens out. As Packer fans we only look at it from one way. In this case, the game was effected, but I would say the better team won….Pitt would beat AZ 8 out of 10 times – but with better calls this could have been one of the two!

I see where the Bucs hired Andy Reid’s qb coach, Pat Shurmur, (Fritz Shurmur’s nephew) and taking his place is ol’ Doug Peterson. I’m thinkin’ the only thing better than being a place kicker is being a backup to a qb like Favre, Elway, Marino…or our Wisconsin connection, Jim Sorgi. Bet those Colt fans love him.

yup, you’d have to think that because the NFL (the not for long) league doesn’t allow for plan B. We’ve seen that tried by the Vikes with their qb situation. Jackson probably is never going to be a top flight qb. Plan B is the established veteran who is ok, in this case Frerotte, who had chances to start but never did a great job. In plan B you are playing to minimize mistakes, not to try and make great plays. Kurt Warner was buried in a lineup behind Favre, Brunell, and Detmer. I like Detmer, but how the coaches didn’t see the potential in Warner, even at that stage, is beyond me. But, I guess when you are a little rough around the edges, and your scouts have deemed the other guys better “prospects”, the evaluation process is tilted from the get go.

I see “if” Harrell recovers he will be tested at the DE spot becaue he can’t play nose tackle. I’d say we can predict what this means. I don’t see a guy like that playing DE.
Maybe someone with the 4-3 can rescue him. Maybe Buffalo will offer something for him. But I think his days in green and gold are numbered.

Roy, he also got us a #3 pick which we can certainly use. And, he allowed us to compare his performance to #12. For free, without that stupid promotion money the management offered.

Could be the gift that keeps on giving. Good spot for OL or DL pick.

Mark, it’s sad but true that you don’t see those kind of old qbs hanging around anymore. Personally, I think a guy like Alex Smith deserved a better fate than he got. What did he have…maybe 3 O coordinators in his first three years there? Some guys pick it up faster than others. Unfortunately the guys that get rushed like Smith, get the throw him under the bus treatment before you know if they could be salvaged. There’s other guys like David Carr and J.P. Losman who have had limited success but were also expected to start from the get-go. I don’t agree with TT but half the time…LOL..but I do understand why he picked McCarthy to develop a qb and run an offense. Obviously we don’t know the conversation, but you still need a good D coordinator. As I said before, we haven’t had one of those since Fritz Shurmur left with whats-his-name. You know, the guy who became the coach of the Seahawks at 8 mil a year and was gonna guide them to multiple Super Bowls. Maybe they should change that sign to Seahawk Way headed west.

There’s a new sheriff in town for the KC Chiefs and his name is Scott Pioli, TT’s counterpart. KC Chiefs decided not to fire their staff, just the coach, Herm Edwards. This is where you wonder if the cost savings come into play, hoping the new coach will retain the assistants already under contract. Afterall, it’s the head coach who made all the bonehead moves and caused all those losses, not the assistants. Coordinators, like qbs, get far too much credit for winning…which results in nice promotions like Todd Haley in Kansas City or Denver’s Josh McDaniels. What will be interesting to see if our old friend Mike Holmgren or Shanahan or even Johnny Gruden get another chance to coach in the NFL. Sounds ridiculous, I know, but the current “wave” seems like younger and cheaper not older, (maybe) wiser and more expensive. The Packers are lucky that at least 3 of their former employees on defense found jobs, limiting their share of payroll for this year.

Harty Har, Har, fair enough. There again, as mentioned above, our penchant for OCs and QB coaches. You probably are right in the Holmgren/Wolf debate, if there is one. Maybe Mike gets too much credit, but Wolf sure got a lot of accolades too. On the assumption that we’ve turned the program around with the new coaching staff, will the TT detracters give him any credit or will it be MM. Its got to be one or the other. Here again, I’m leaping already to a great year!!!

Favre retired today, again. Let’s hope he avoids making any more of an a-hole out of himself than he has done already.

Favre retiring…again! Haven’t we seen this movie already? I hope this isn’t just an attempt to play for the Vikings after getting a release from the Jets. I would imagine there is a time line for financials that we should see before too long. The Jets, unlike the Pack, are salary cap strapped and should be happy to get some relief. I would also imagine they will join the Matt Cassel sweepstakes along with the Chiefs, Detroit possibly, and maybe even San Francisco. Step right up and place your bid, right after we figure out if Tom Brady can play.

From the Packers Presser dept on the retirement of Brett Favre:
“we remain committed to retiring his number at an appropriate time in the future”
Would that “appropriate time” be after TT and MM leave the building?

Larry, although we don’t hear his name called a lot, Ngata holding up the middle, revived Lewis’ career in Baltimore. So some attention should be paid to Raji. But Orakpo or Maybin or Jenkins might be good. Lots of opportunities to help the defense. The only thing I don’t want to see is us trading down for people who wont help us next year. If the Patriots can find Mayo, the defensive rookie of the year, at #10 TT better show us he can come through with something.