Some good, some bad at OTAs

Organized Team Activities are under way for the Green Bay Packers and after the first week there was plenty to talk about. Some of it good news and some of it bad news.

The Good:  Quarterback Aaron Rodgers’ leadership is showing more and more and this now is clearly his team. With Rodgers coming off a superb season in which he became only the second quarterback in NFL history to throw for over 4,000 yards in his first year as a starter and also threw 28 touchdowns to only 13 interceptions, the Packers are in good hands at the most pivotal position. Rodgers has been sharp and his deep ball may even be better than last year when he led the league in completions over 40 yards. The combination of him and wide receiver Greg Jennings could be every bit as explosive as the Tom Brady-Randy Moss combo in New England. If Rodgers puts 16 more games under his belt I believe the Packers will certainly return to the playoffs this season.

Defensive lineman Justin Harrell has been a bright spot both on and off the field. The much maligned, often injured lineman is running with the one’s in practice playing defensive end in the new 3-4 defense the Packers are instituting. Harrell has looked good and claims to be 100 percent healthy for the first time since the Packers drafted him with their number one pick in 2007. He has stepped up to the plate off the field has as well by facing his critics and not making excuses for his lack of production after being drafted so high (number 15 overall). Harrell wants to prove to the world he is not a bust and I think he could easily end up being a starter on opening day.

The aforementioned Jennings, who is a star in the making and is in the last year of his contract is not holding out and showing much more class than most players lately that are in his same shoes. Jennings knows his deal will get done and punishing his teammates by not showing up for OTAs is not his style, unlike a certain safety and receiver to be mentioned later. Just by showing up Jennings proves to the Packers what type of person he is and when the deal gets done he will be worth every penny.

The Bad:  In one of the weirdest situations I’ve ever seen wide receiver Donald Driver is crying for more money yet again. This has become pretty much a yearly occurrence and the Packers would be wise to draw the line this time. Driver probably has only one year left in Green Bay no matter what happens this year. The emergence of Jennings and young receivers like Jordy Nelson and James Jones and Driver’s advancing age make him expendable, especially if he thinks he’s worth $8-10 million per year. Driver probably knows the writing is on the wall and wants to get as much from the Packers this year knowing damn well he won’t be under contract next year. Driver has been a semi-class act during his career in Green Bay so the Packers might appease him, but they have no reason to do so.

Saftey Nick Collins also is also showing his selfish side and hurting his teammates by refusing to attend camp and learn the new defense. His job is supposed to be the “quarterback” of the defense and by not being here he is hurting not only himself but his team. I think the Packers should start grooming his replacement and not worry about him. He had one good year that I think was a fluke and if the Packers open the vault to him they will have a ton of dead money after he flops this year. The longer he stays away from camp the less money he is worth. The Packers have depth in the secondary with several guys who can play both corner and safety, so as far as Collins is concerned, it’s out of sight, out of mind. So long and good riddance.

Finally, what is up with Aaron Kampman? The media is pounding him and assuming that he doesn’t his like his role in the new defense and until he states otherwise that is what people are going to believe. I will give him credit for being here trying to learn the system. If he wanted to wait until he got into some meetings and practices and actually see what his role will be before talking publicly, then fine. A simple statement saying that would have been easy enough to release through the team. Now he just comes off as an immature girl giving the silent treatment. I think the Packers should be seriously shopping Kampman because the Packers have plenty of linebackers who can play the position. Brady Poppinga can play there no problem and with Jeremy Thompson opening eyes so far in camp, not to mention Clay Matthews, the Packers don’t need Kampman any longer. He’s been a good foot soldier but if any other team than the Vikings would have given him that offer sheet a few years ago I think the Packers might have let him go then.

There are a couple of other areas of concern like the offensive line but I think those issues will work themselves out as players get healthy and training camp unfolds. I do think at least one of the positions on the right side of the line will be manned by a rookie. I think Cliffy, Colledge and Spitz will work the left side and center positions come opening day. I just think T.J. Lang is going to get one of those right side spots.

So far I think the good outweighs the bad.

  • http://Orlando Mark

    Seriously Rocky, are you happy we traded #4 last year. If you are happy you should try to show it in your posts. You’re not really going to get even with #4, for whatever, by spewing all this crap about him. Why not look on the bright side of things or at least talk about something else. It’s getting pretty boring. It’s a real downer seeing all your negative stuff all the time do you even have anything else.

  • iccyfan

    Mark – You appear to have become fixated on Rocky70 because he doesn’t share your man-love for BF. I’m bored by the continued Favre what-if’s and the anti-TT agenda. Why not look on the bright side of things or at least talk about something else…

    PB just wants to “contend”; I’ll assume he means for Superbowl wins and not just NFC Norris titles. Our last two chances to appear in a SB ended when your hero tossed balls up for grabs when there was absolutely no reason to do so. I think you’re freaken crazy if you still believe your “resurgent Favre” was the best QB option for 2008. You’re doubly crazy if you truly believe 2008′s record would have been significantly better with Favre at the helm. Crazy might be too strong, but living in the past would be accurate given the contined references to “all the games he won over the years”….

  • Roy Jamison

    Since the NFL is what have you done for me lately, I’d have to predict that Sherman’s win-loss record will be better than MM’s after six years if he gets the ship righted. I will admit I am hoping that MM will be close to Sherman’s record which would mean playoffs for the next three years. But, MM will have to average 10-6 every season to do that. And, if he does, they will have the same record.

  • Larry

    Won’t get into the 12v4 debate since neither can compared to each other with the same criteria. However, from a team outlook quite a difference in attitude re Pickett on Raji vs Favre and Rodgers. “I’ll mentor him on and off the field——he’s a good kid——-.” And another quote, “its great (the pick)————-. You have to make a move for the future.” Wow, what a great statement for a true team player! Prior were Picketts comments on the drafting of Raji……..! 6-10 or 10-6 the Pack is my team, and yes, at my age its more important to have the high character roster than the stupid trophy once every 20 years (which is the real probability for any team).

  • Rocky70

    Although I believe it’s unfortunate & even folly for the BF apologists to support their ‘prima-diva’, I still accept it as their right.

    At the same time, my views are also valid. For BF apologists to resort to name-calling, profanity & reference to human sexual parts only serve to indicate how weak their arguments really are.

    Just as BF has become an embarrassment, so too have those who continue to ‘play with themselves’ while dreaming of their idol & master & then feel the need to have to share with the world their undying adoration for someone they don’t even know. A mere image on their 26″ Sony. -Truly a sad situation.

    I choose to be a ‘real’ PackerFan. BF plays for the Jets…………..er…wait……he plays for the Vikings………………er………wait…….he’s retired. -Whatever.

  • Jeff

    Rocky – that is possibly the worst pile of crap I have ever seen posted here. This place needs a damn ignore feature.

  • iccyfan

    “Favre took personal responsibility for the Jets’ failure, blaming his painful shoulder for creating a random lack of arm strength and throwing accuracy.” – Mortensen & Werder

    For some reason, inclusion of the word “random” in that sentence makes it funny! That whole article, along with the linked blog, make me laugh (and a little sad at the same time)…

  • Roy Jamison

    The word “circus” comes to mind when describing an ex packer qb.

  • Roy Jamison

    Vikings coach Brad Childress has imposed a deadline of this week for Brett Favre to decide whether he will be the team’s quarterback for the 2009 season, according to ESPN.com. ESPN writers Chris Mortensen and Ed Werder cited two sources.

    I haven’t seen anything published how much they expect to pay this 40 year old, but I don’t think it’s going to be close to the $13 million he got last year.

  • Roy Jamison

    * One of the big questions remaining is how much the Vikings are willing to pay for Favre. Even though they have enough salary-cap space, it seems unlikely they would go as high as the $13 million base salary Favre would have been due under his old contract. Charley Walters of the St. Paul Pioneer Press writes Favre is expected to cost at least $10 million in guaranteed money and makes the same connection we did on Monday to the ongoing contract stand-off with Pro Bowl cornerback Antoine Winfield.

  • Pack4life

    Minnesota has a long history with people who have substance abuse issues, Tommy Kramer, Keith Millard, Chris Carter and Jared Allen just to name a few. I have friends in MS that theorize Bret may have a hard time staying sober while retired. MN also has several world class treatment facilities.

  • Lew

    What a absolutely retarded post pack4life

  • Rocky70

    Decision time is drawing closer & closer.

    Will the Favre apologists be ‘real’ PackFans in 2009 or will they continue to smell BF’s jockstrap?

    Supposedly there are many good ‘ViQween” blogs & sites. Better start looking.

  • Pack4life

    Satire is lost on some. Not surprised.

  • Dan

    As a Packer fan, why are so many obsessed with Favre?
    Packers should be doing everything they can to put the best team on the field for every single game. Worrying about other teams doesn’t do any good.

    I could care less if Vikings want to hire Favre or if Favre wants to work. Bottom line, it’s none of my business.

    Teams that worry about what other teams do always play down to the level of their opponent. Anyone really think Lombardi cared what other teams did? Anyone think the 70′s Steelers cared what other teams did? On game day, you either execute better than the other team or you lose.

    This is the NFL, everyone in the Packers organization needs to take care of their own business to produce winners or they should be sent to the Lions or Bengals.

  • Rocky70

    How about some new IDs for our Favre apologists.

    packer_bob becomes viking_bob.
    Mark can become BFForeverInPurple.
    Lew-Lew can become ThePurpleGang. (This will cover all his IDs)

    BF sure has painted you dudes into a corner. Good luck with your continued BF infatuation. You know how BF hasn’t been able to win the ‘big’ games in over 10 years…….. He still can’t.

  • Larry

    Response to Dan: Your reference to St. Vincent made me think of an old, old comment he once made; “I don’t care if they do know I’m going to run the Packer Sweep, if everybody does their job and completes they’re assignments the opponents can’t stop it!” (Quotes mine because of accuracy) If you can accurately cite Lombardi you must have been around as long as me. It’s just a proven fact, over and over again, execution, execution, execution. Coaching, training, desire and of course talent will out. You’ve got to go to battle with what you’ve got so quit harping on the past. We old timers use the past only as a reference and not as a certain on how it should be done today, although execution obviously is the key to success. In any case I feel an arguement about what would have happened last year if Favre had been on board is ridiculous.

  • Dan

    That’s a great quote Larry. Thank you for posting it.

    St Vincent’s words are as true today as they were back then.

  • packer_bob

    Iccy,

    We’ll never know what would have happened with Favre in 2008. I know what happened without him. If he had played for us in 2008 and had a poor season I would be ready to jettison him, but I still I think it was stupid to do so right after he had an MVP caliber season and we went 13-3 and were that close to a SB.

    You’re right, I want to contend, meaning win the division and have a CHANCE to get to a Super Bowl. My argument with Schein is that he seems to think we’ve been doing both and I don’t with the exception of the one season which I have spoken about above.

    Rocky,

    Quit putting words in my mouth. I am not a Vikings fan, will never be a Vikings fan and still will not be even if Favre ends up there. When have I ever indicated otherwise?

    I am and will always be a fan of Favre, as I am with many NFL greats. If the man wants to play football and some team will have him, who are you or anyone else to disparage him for that? This bitterness you carry is incomprehensible and the pejorative ID’s you handed out show that the site’s downtime have done nothing to help you recharge your little gray cells.

  • packer_bob

    Larry,

    I can appreciate your paraphrased Lombardi quote and am familiar with it–my high school football coach used to say the same thing about our power I option–that if we simply executed it, it couldn’t be stopped!

    Unfortunately we are in a different era now and even taking that into consideration, I’m afraid our current coach falls a little short in comparison.