I’m so sick of…

There are some players or stories that I can’t take anymore. So here are the things I’m so sick of.

I’m so sick of Justin Harrell. For a week it appeared that Harrell would finally be healthy and at least have a chance to contribute to the Packers’ new 3-4 defense. Now that his back his hurt again we can close the book on Harrell He is a complete and total bust as a first round pick and will likely not make the team this year. I thought that five-minute fix by a local chiropractor was a little fishy, now we know it was indeed a joke. Harrell is done. End of story.

I am so sick of hamstring and groin injuries. First-round draft pick Clay Matthews injured his hamstring again and he seems to be headed down Harrell’s road. I mean, come on, in this day and age, how can these guys keep pulling hamstrings and groins? After seeing Matthews since he has been in town for the offseason program and training camp I have serious doubts about his toughness. The guy looks like he should be in the movie “Point Blank” and not on an NFL field. If Harrell was Thompson’s biggest bust I have to wonder if Matthews isn’t far behind. Especially considering what the Packers gave up to get him.

I am so sick of the NFL and rookie salaries. The politics keeping B.J. Raji out of camp are inexcusable and better be addressed in the upcoming negotiations between the league and players union. Raji has missed enough already that his season is pretty much shot. He has missed the most important two weeks of camp and that can’t be made up. The Packers start playing games Saturday and all the installations will be finished by then and Raji will have to catch up with limited reps and playing time. He better impress when he comes in or the Packers might have two busts in one round.

I’m so sick of running backs Brandon Jackson and Deshawn Wynn. The Packers have an immediate need at running back and bringing in a guy like Shaun Alexander or Edgerrin James for a look-see would certainly make sense in my mind. Jackson and Wynn are injury prone and can’t be counted on and aren’t even that good. Something needs to be done and done soon at running back.

I’m so sick of Arron Rodgers being blamed for the Packers’ 6-10 record last year. Anybody with a half-brain knows he was not the problem. I’ll take 4000 yards and 28 TDs anytime. If the Rodgers haters were being fair they would compare Rodgers to the previous quarterback when Rodgers’ career is over, but they base it all on one year, forgetting that four years ago their idol threw 29 interceptions in a 4-12 season and wasn’t much better in an 8-8 year in 2006. With one year in the books I believe that Rodgers might actually be better than his predecessor and that would be a travesty to the faithful followers of the Disappointment Machine. If Rodgers sucks this year than so be it, but odds of that are slim unless he gets hurt.

Finally, I’m so sick of bad weather on Packers’ Family Night. Here I am all fired up to see the Packers and their new defense go against one of the best offenses in the NFL and it gets rained out. I remember the good old days when it was “Intrasquad Game” and was four quarters of football. Turning it into a scrimmage sucked but I guess it had to be done with the money being paid to the players nowadays. The Packers might want to get things started earlier though in the future, why they have to keep people there so late I can’t understand. Practice should be over by 8:30 instead of halfway through. It will be plenty dark enough for fireworks after the jersey giveaway.

Enough whining, but isn’t that what training camp is for?

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  • Pete H

    Way over the top, as usual. Except about Harrell….piece of shit. relax about the rest …..good grief

  • http://Orlando Mark

    One of the worst things about Harrell is we have to keep him on the team no matter how bad he does because of the size of his contract. A wasted roster spot and those millions could have been used to sign a useful free agent. As to how bad #4 did during the 4-12 year, c’mon. You pick out a year when it was amazing he survived every snap with no guards, second rate recievers and Samkon Gado starting. Good going, Al.
    I hope #12 never has to deal with a mess like that.

  • Rocky70

    BJ Raji made just about all the off-season OTAs & mini-cap. He could remain unsigned the rest of the TC & still be in the DL rotation come game one of the regular season. It’s only the media that paints it as a ‘dire’ situation….. Which draftees held out in season 2008 & what was the effect? …. Few can answer because it rarely matters.

    If AR put up the same numbers for the next ten years as he did in 2008, he’d wind up in the HOF. ….. The same numbers (28-13-4000+) 9 times out of 10 would catapult nearly any NFL team into the playoffs. —- Look for even better numbers, IMO.
    ( Do I sense another ‘free pass’ in Mark’s post ? )

    The pre-season is all about injuries. GB can count themselves as ‘lucky’ so far. Several teams have already lost players for the entire season.

  • Rocky70

    For those who have been predicting Al Harris to ‘fall on his face playing zone’, here’s a camp tidbit:

    •” A strange sight is watching old press-man specialist Al Harris lined up seven to eight yards off receivers. Still, almost nobody is beating him deep. James Jones and rookie Kole Heckendorf, the graceful free agent from Mosinee, tried it late Tuesday night but didn’t have any luck. “

  • Monty Montana

    Packer Fans

    Agreed, Harrell is a bust, was a bust from the time he was chosen. Give me Corey Williams any day to Harrell, and that includes the guy we picked with the 2nd rounder we got from Cleveland. Sorry, but just watching Brohm’s video interview on packer.com, you can tell he has zero confidence. So far, Cleveland got the better of that trade. I agree with Al on the running back situation, Action Jackson is another Thompson bust, he’s been here three years and isnt even a good third down back. We cant run screens like we use to because A) we dont have the linemen for it because of Big Mike’s ZBS and B) we do not have any screen catching and running backs that can run a screen. Remember the championship game, we tried to run a screen to the left and Anthony Pierce broke right though our guards. I do like Wynn, but he cant stay healthy. As for Rogers, until he develops into a QB that can lead 4th Qtr comebacks, he has to take part of the responsibility for the team’s overall record. Yes, our defense blew it last year, but if I remember in a couple of games (Atlanta and Carolina) Rogers threw a couple of picks that ended our chances of winning. Five years and we still have more Duds than Studs with Thompson as the GM. I read earlier a comparison of Sherman and Thompson as GM’s and the question was asked what would you rather have little or no cap space and a winning team or lots of cap space and a losing team, since for the past four seasons under Thomspon thats pretty much what the Packers have been. Im not really a Mike Sherman fan, but he woudl have at least made the trade for Randy Moss. Year five under Thompson and we are no nearer a championship team than we were when he first arrived. I still predict Capers is our man next year, because if Rodgers or Jenkins gets hurt, its bye bye baby. As for Matthew’s, who knows about his hamstring, I play recreational sports and I see guys pulling hammies among other things all the time. Truth be told, if you play or compete, you re gonna get that….but Harrell, should have never drafted an injured player. As for the rookie salary mess, I say get a rookie salary schedule and give the millions to the vets who have earned it. All this hold out shit is ridiculous.

  • paul

    hhmmmmm!
    Most of the topics people are sick of directly related to TT/MM and their poor decision making, preparation, etc. Hell, I’ll even blame the bad weather on TT, why not?

  • Rocky70

    Here are words extracted from:
    Thomas L Says:
    August 6th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    Thats…….. wouldnt …… shouldnt ……. etc.
    ________________________________________
    Here are words extracted from:
    Monty Montana Says: – (above)
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:05 am

    isnt ……dont ….. thats …….Im ………..etc.
    ________________________________________

    Is it just a mere coincidence that two entirely different IDs fail to use apostrophes ?
    I think not.

  • paul

    Football Rocky Rockhead, football please!!!! Packer football would be nice.

  • zach

    I agree with the constant groin and hamstring injuries. What is going on here that these guys are not in good enough physical condition to PRACTICE, let alone play. A 22yo man should not be pulling hammies or groins, period. Who is responsible for conditioning, and how in the hell did they get their job?

    And, rookies holding out is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. I don’t like holding out in the first place, but shouldn’t you at least have to prove your worth first? This guy will probably get a fat contract and then fall on his face. Deja Vu anyone????

  • Pack4life

    Head Coach Mike Smith of the Atlanta Falcons says Packer DL coach Mike Trgovac is the best DLine coach in Football. With that endorsement I think Raji’s “holdout” means very little. I hate to stir anti-TT sentiment but this is TT’s doing. David Dunn has never had a client holdout this long. Another example of TT being penny wise (Duke Preston) and pound foolish (Justin Harrell).

  • Punk

    Jumping ahead of 8 and 10 would be unwise in this climate (pioneers take the arrows). Re Harrell; don’t know what he costs, but insofar as taking up a roster spot, I would think he is worth it(the gamble). In any case IF he can play and is not a #1 then there will be some “give back” when he re-signs. I’m frustrated too, and think this is the end of the line if he does’t perform, however. My patience comes from having gone prior huge (and this would be a big one) mistakes like Hadl, Bruce Clark, Jefferson, Carroll, Mandarich, etc. I’m sure all teams have their examples as well.

  • Matt Hayton

    Don’t give me that Shit, Al. If we go 13-3 and win a super bowl, you’ll be spewing MVP and future HOFer comments…

    You can’t have it both ways…if he will be largley responsible for a great season, if we have one this year, then he was also largely responsible for 6-10 last year.

    Besides even Aaron himself says he has a ways to go…which is all I am saying:

    Rodgers and McCarthy both said the next step he has to take is becoming a more consistent player. Rodgers said he has drawn inspiration from offseason training he did with New Orleans quarterback Drew Brees.

    Nowadays little Packer fans are sporting No. 12 jerseys rooting for QB Aaron Rodgers. ( / Associated Press)

    “Week in and week out, he’s putting up numbers,” Rodgers said. “The difference between a guy like that who’s consistently going to the Pro Bowl and me is that his bad games are closer to his good games. There’s not as big a drop off. If he has an average or below-average game, he’s still being productive and moving the ball. There were times last year when we were unproductive on offense. I need to close that gap.”

    Chill out, Al. I’ll be ready to anoint him to, if we make the playoffs this year…which at the end of the day, is all I or anyone else on this blog wants, regardless of who is lining up under center, or who the GM or coach is!

  • Matt Hayton

    hey Rock-

    I agree. I was wrong about old Al…he seems to be transitioning well to the zone defense. Good call!

  • packer_bob

    Harrell–Ditto.
    Injuries–Ditto, although it’s a little early to get that worried, and lumping Mathews in as a Harrell is a major stretch at this point.
    Rookie Salaries–Ditto, the league needs to change the way this is done. I blame the system more than Raji or the Packers.
    RB’s-Let’s see how Wynn looks this season, I think he has potential. I’d be Ok with looking at a veteran but Shaun Alexander? Isn’t he a walking bruise at this point?
    Bad weather–Ditto.

    AR–First of all, I keep seeing people complaining about AR getting blamed for 6-10. Who’s doing that? I don’t see it in the media and I really don’t see it on this board. I have seen people say he had some bad play at the end of a couple of games and have seen his record in close games brought up in the media, but for the most part all coverage has been extremely positive if you ask me.

    Secondly, you say it would be fair to compare Rodger’s to Favre when AR’s career is over, then go on to say that after one year he may be better than Favre. Hmmmm..

  • packer_bob

    As for Al Harris, that’s great. I’ll feel better when I see it in a game.

  • packer_bob

    Anybody concerned we’re ranked 19th in the league, behind both the Bears and the Vikings, in the PakerReport pre-season rankings?

  • zach

    im not concerned.

  • Mel e Mel

    The Bears bought a Rolls Royce with no tires, and the Vikes on the eve of their opening pre-season snap have no idea who their QB is and openly admit to it. After 10 games the division was a 3 way tie last year. Who has improved the most since then? I would like to think that Dom Capers is a better coach than Rod Marenelli. The Bears are the only legit competition in the Division but they dont have any wow factors on either side of the ball.

  • JeffN

    Lot’s of whining up top there, pretty lame. It’s football injuries happen. Why are we still rehashing Justine Herill. We all agree he is a bust. Time to move on.

    Defense looks pretty good out there. Something postive is going on.

  • cdk4205

    May be time to hunt up Vonnie Holliday – he should have a little left in the tank (Sean Jones style in the Ron Wolf days).

  • Punk

    The VH to SJ analogy is valid, especially in the conversation about Harrell(throw Jolly and Montgomery in the hopper too). As I recall Vonnie can slip inside on the 4-man front as well. I’d sure take a shot at him, but would he come back?

  • packer_bob

    I take it from this conversation that he’s unsigned? If that’s the case, I don’t know why he wouldn’t come back. Seems like he’s been pretty solid with Miami over the last few seasons although I could be wrong, don’t watch that much AFC anymore.

    Can’t see how he’d be unsigned at this point unless there’s some injury or cumulative wear and tear type of problem. He’s not exactly a spring chicken at this point! Still, if he has anything left at all I’d be in favor of stocking up some D-line depth in light of
    what’s going on with Harrell and Raji.

  • Rocky70

    Both Vonnie & Kevin Carter are available. Either would, IMO, be an upgrade over Monty. Both have played well, steady & injury free over the last few years.

    @ Mel e Mel

    Throw in the fact that Minnesota’s OL is presently considered a ‘mess’ by most pundits & you have a potential recipe for disaster. If Peterson were to have any injury issues in 2009, the Vikes & Lions could be competing for the cellar.

    IMO, the Bears will be the chief comp for the North Division. However, when a kick-returner is considered your big-play threat on offense, you’re in trouble.

  • Pack4life

    The Bears announced the other day that Hester will no longer return kicks

  • iccyfan

    You have to love an OLB named Stryker! What in the heck were the Raiders doing on draft day? I know he was only a sixth-rounder, but draft a guy, fail to sign him and cut him without ever stepping foot in Training Camp? (Confused). He and Brad Jones appear to be similar players; bad timing with the injury for Jones and failure to pass his physical – looks like his “TC body” replacement was just acquired…

  • Rocky70

    Raji signed.

    ” The contract, whose language is being reviewed at this moment, is expected to be signed on Friday when Raji arrives back in Green Bay.

    Terms of the contract were not immediately known, but it was likely a five-year contract. “

  • zach

    Raji will probably suck now. How does a rookie have any grounds to holdout??

  • Rocky70

    Vick Signing:

    ” The speculation is over.
    ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported Thursday night on air that Michael Vick has signed a two-year deal with the Philadelphia Eagles. ”

    Good. ….. Philly can deal with the headache.

  • http://Orlando Mark

    The Eagles are trying to win a SB with the clock running out on McNabb, who doesn’t seem the least bit threatened. We don’t care if we have a competent backup QB because this is obviously another rebuilding year. Just like the other four for this regime. Maybe next year we’ll make a serious effort to be a contender.

  • Rocky70

    @ Mark

    Your comments can only be termed as ‘ridiculous’.

    -

  • http://Orlando Mark

    Rocky, my remarks can only be termed obvious. Do you think we have a competent backup QB, do you think because #4 never went down #12 won’t? Do you think avoiding free agency gives us a better chance to win this year? Do you think having the youngest roster again is a recipe for success? TT has gone after good free agents when he was desparate after the 4-12 year(Pickett and Woodson) and I can see him doing it again if he thought we had a chance to win. No one did after his 8-8 year, as was pointed out to me on this board. And no one believes it now. Do you really believe we’re SB contenders this year? If you’re that delude you’re in the minority.

  • Mel e Mel

    The Eagles gave Vick a 2 year deal just so happens McNabbs deal is up in 2 years. I do pity any PETA protester going to Philly. Philly is a good team but their division is downright brutal. The defenses in the east will adjust to Vick in no time flat.
    B.J. Will be starting VS Chicago who has serious questions on the o line.

  • Rocky70

    @ Mark

    You’re just starting up an old ad nauseum argument. If you have so many issues with how GB is being run, find a new team….. You post like you could switch in a whim.

    Why not try the Raiders……. all the riff-raff ends up in the Bay.

  • Rocky70

    Is McNabb A-OK with Vick signing ? We shall see over the next couple of days.

    From PFT:

    ” According to a league source with intimate knowledge of the dynamics within the organization, McNabb isn’t pleased with the development. ”

    -

  • packer_bob

    Great news about Raji! Was really worried this would drag out for weeks.

    Zach, I understand what you’re saying about a rookie holding out. However, the problem has more to do with the system than the Packers or Raji. Imagine it was you getting ready to sign a life changin payday for the first (potentially only) time. Would you want to agree to deal right away, then watch the picks before and after you sign for millions more? You’d feel like you left a bunch of dough on the table. Reverse the scenario for Packers management. Nobody wants to look like a fool like Ricky Williams poorly negotiated rookie deal, or spend like a fool ala Al Davis.

    Negotiations are about win-win, at least it’s over now and let’s hope it ends up being a good deal for both sides.

  • packer_bob

    Wow, Rocky, that really sounds like an iron clad story. Aren’t you the one talking about how the media creates stories rather than reporting them? Your nose might be getting led on this one–let’s wait and see what McNabb has to say, he’s a big boy, he can speak for himself. Just glad the Pack didn’t get involved in Vick.

    And some of us think Mark has a point. It’s not support management or find another team, what a crock! “My country, right or wrong” is a BS, myopic point of view. Or were you just as supportive of all Mike Sherman’s moves? He was in charge, must have been right all the time.

  • Rocky70

    Per MJS:

    ” The Green Bay Packers and nose tackle B.J. Raji agreed upon a deal that appears about commensurate with what the going rate was for players selected around the ninth selection. ”

    ” Raji’s five-year deal is worth $28.5 million, according to an NFL source familiar with the numbers. The guaranteed portion of the contract is worth just under $18 million. “

  • Rocky70

    @ PB
    Thus my statement —(or did you read too fast again)
    ” We shall see over the next couple of days. ”
    _______________
    Per Mark:

    “We don’t care if we have a competent backup QB because this is obviously another rebuilding year. Just like the other four for this regime. Maybe next year we’ll make a serious effort to be a contender.”

    PB, do you honestly believe that any NFL team or GB “don’t care if they have a competent back QB” ? “Obviously another rebuilding year” — is this your belief also?
    ______________

    Mark is just po’ed because he didn’t get his new pet Vick signed as a Packer. Therefore, the ‘sky’ is falling. PB – you’re being duped again. Try to show a little more independent thought for once.

  • Punk

    Well, the deal makers are making me eat my words. Didn’t like being caught between 7 and 11. If what I read is correct, and its pretty much an average between, it looks good. Especially with a “skill” at 10. So, I say – Well done. Wow, McNabb trying to salvage a career in a town that really has not been behind him and Vick running all over chomping at his heels. MIN QBs no way compare to ours – Jackson (hurt?) and for my money, Sage (?) not as good as Flynn (he was a bust down here in HOU). Then the Bearse trying to make a sows ear (WR/Wildcat) out of a silk purse (KR/PR). What both those teams have to rely on is a RB only. Their Ds OK I guess, but I like ours better. And DET? Well, DET is DET, with either a Rook or a has-been and little else. NFC North = good times for Pack…..!

  • Rocky70

    Geez Punk,

    Don’t you know it’s fashionable to trash pretty much everything GB does or doesn’t do these days ? …….. It’s fashionable to predict doom & gloom.

    Just ask PB & Mark.

  • http://Orlando Mark

    Rocky, I’m not starting up an old argument. I’m not even arguing. I’m dissappointed in our backup QB’s and I see the Eagles get a veteran who has some ability for very little risk without even giving up a pick. I’m much happier about this off season than last year. I honestly believe this is a building year and if TT can hold onto our better players(a lot of contracts coming up) we’ll be the dominant team in our division next year. We’ve got a weak schedule this year and could go 10-6 and win the division. But, from what I’ve seen so far, it’s more likely we’ll finish 8-8 or 9-7 and out of the playoffs even if #12 stays healthy.

  • packer_bob

    Rocky, seriously man, F-U. I’m just a member of the herd, not capable of thoughts of my own? Whatever. Guess if I joined the cult of “Packers management can do no wrong” on this board I’d be more of an individual. Mark asked you several direct questions, you completely ignored them, as usual. I don’t agree that Vick was a useful pursuit for us, but I can understand the sentiment. You just dismiss it.

    You float a completely unsourced quote about McNabb, then cop out with the “we see shall see” BS? Here’s one for you, an unnamed source says TT likes to party with heroin whores, only time will tell if it’s true though, so I’ll keep you posted.

    To answer your questions (you should try that sometime): Yeah, they probably care that they don’t have any backup at QB, as in recognize it’s a problem, but haven’t done anything about. Let’s both pray Rodgers stays healthy this season. And yes, I feel like TT has been “rebuilding” since he got here. If you don’t think the changes taken this last offseason, TT’s fourth, don’t qualify as rebuilding, I’d hate to see your definition of re-tooling or re-loading.

  • Rocky70

    Mark
    I’ll stick with my original statement.

    ” Mark is just po’ed because he didn’t get his new pet Vick signed as a Packer. Therefore, the ’sky’ is falling. ”

    TC is about 2 weeks old. GB hasn’t even played a pre-season game yet. …………But from what you have seen………. “we’ll finish 8-8 or 9-7 and out of the playoffs.”

    Do you have any actual scores ? It would sure help my betting line this season. LOL.

  • Rocky70

    PB

    I respond to those posts I deem worthy of my response.
    That McNabb line came from a story from PFT as I stated. Please read slower. (or ask someone to read & then explain it to you – asking for help is not bad)

    You are a lemming, always have been a lemming and always will be a lemming.

    -

  • packer_bob

    Rocky70 says:”I’d be totally po’ed if GB finished less than 9-7. I’d be mildly po’ed if they finish less than 11-5. ….

    Then says:”Do you have any actual scores ? It would sure help my betting line this season. LOL”

    You were born stupid and it’s been down hill ever since.

  • Rocky70

    PB

    You’re making very little sense. Maybe you should reduce that nightly 12-pack down to a 6-pack. (or even less)

    Or seek some help.

  • packer_bob

    And: “”Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!”

    Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!

  • packer_bob

    What, when Mark makes a statement about the record this year he needs the scores, but you don’t?

  • Rocky70

    PB

    You’re making very little sense. Maybe you should reduce that nightly 12-pack down to a 6-pack. (or even less)

    Or seek some help. AA.

  • packer_bob

    Yeah, that’s right, I’m completely wasted you presumptious bastard. Ignore the questions, ignore the actual argument, just attack the questioner.

    You’re completely right, as always—-I am drinking beer. A@W diet Root beer.

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