Bittersweet day for true Packers’ fans

When Brett Favre signed his contract today with the Minnesota Vikings he also signed away any chance he ever had of returning to Green Bay as a hero. He is now public enemy number one and if the Packers only win two games this year they better be the Vikings games. I have never hated a former Packer more than I hate Brett Favre. You say hate is a strong word, in this case it is a weak word. Brett Favre is dead to me. I have more respect for Jim McMahan.

Judging by his press conference today it is clear that Favre has no respect for Packers’ fans. To think that a true Packers’ fan would embrace him playing for the Packers’ most hated rival just goes to show how stupid this man is. Brett Favre has no clue what a “true Packers’ fan” is. He should never be allowed back in Green Bay after he retires and certainly never allowed in the Packers’ Hall of Fame. His accomplishments on the field merit induction, but his hatred for the Packers should keep him out of this city forever. I would never welcome him back. All the things he said to disrespect the city, the organization, and the Packers’ fans cannot be brushed under the rug. The guy is the biggest baby I’ve ever seen play in the NFL, except for maybe Ryan Leaf, but it is a close call.

One thing I really liked hearing today was the Packers’ players were pretty much saying they can’t wait to kick his ass, linebacker Nick Barnett made it perfectly clear he was coming after him. The Packers certainly have nothing to fear in Brett Favre, in fact, they have everything to gain. Favre is a shell of his former self so his signing with the Vikings pretty much ends the Vikings’ playoff hopes and pretty much puts the division in the hands of the Packers and Bears. Contrary to popular belief the Vikings are not a quarterback away from winning the Super Bowl. This is a desperation move by Brad Childress to save his job and everybody knows it. The beauty is it cost the Vikings $12 million to boot. This move is just another in a long line of losing moves the Vikings have made over the years that makes them a laughingstock in the NFL. We all remember how they paved the way for the Dallas Cowboys to win three Super Bowls in the 90s.

The Vikings’ coach, and their owner, blatantly lied to their players and fans during the process and one can only wonder how that plays in the locker room. Chilly wasn’t exactly a lovable character to begin with. I guess, at this point, neither is Favre. This is going to be a joy to watch as it is a train wreck in the making. I feel like I’m watching Gomez in the Addams Family.

Finally, when Favre says the Packers’ choose to go in a different direction he is so full of shit it is simply unbelievable to hear him say that. The Packers didn’t cut Brett Favre, Brett Favre retired. What were the Packers to do? Not play a quarterback the next year? And to think that Favre thinks the Packers treated him like shit is just proof of how stupid this guy is. The outpouring of goodwill the Packers’ fans gave to him made him a star. When his wife was diagnosed with breast cancer the Packers and Packers’ fans were instrumental in starting the Deanna Favre’s Hope Foundation and proof of that was a total pink out at a game shortly after her diagnoses. After hurricane Katrina Packers’ fans made huge donations to the relief fund mainly because it hit so close and even destroyed Favre’s family home. To say the Packers and their fans did nothing for Favre is a joke and Favre owes more to us than we do to him.

If the Vikings beat the Packers this year, which I think is very unlikely, head coach Mike McCarthy is 7-1 against the Vikings and his only loss was a missed field goal at the buzzer last year, than so be it. Where the two teams are at the end of the season is all that counts and the Vikings will have a fading 40-year old QB leading them while the Packers will have one of the best young quarterbacks in the NFL leading them. You can’t find a valid argument anywhere to say Favre is better than Aaron Rodgers at this point which probably is why the Packers and their fans won’t lose any sleep over Favre joining the Vikings on the field. They may not hate Favre like I do, but they are smart enough to know this is a good move for the rest of the division.

  • Punk

    I’m still holding to my prediction of a couple of months ago when this thing started. Brett will dunk, dink, and hand-off for three quarters against us until he won’t be able to contain himself. Then comes the downfield frustration pass into our waiting arms. That is his MO now and it is reminisent of what his fans call “the excitement he provides”; except that it won’t be our hearts that are broken. Thirty-nine/Fourty year old legs do not have the capability of escaping full-house blitzes that he will face. You may think he is invincible and will just dump it off, but he has never faced the pressure we are going to bring.

  • Punk

    Oops, please read that Forty year old legs. And with a recently discovered rotator cuff to boot; what can he be thinking?

  • Mel e Mel

    Al, I definitely concur. Nobody seems to mention the 9-7 team lost Pro-bowl center Matt Birk. Now they have a center who has never started an NFL game and a Rookie RT. Did anyone notice that the leading receiver for the Vikes caught only 53 balls.

    This moment was a long time coming.
    Nov 2007 My newborn son and wife and mother-in-law are settled in for a quiet evening. This is the Sunday Night matchup between Dallas & Green Bay with the NFC-Championship hanging in the balance. I have NFL Network but I also had a two month old son, soon I drive down to the new Buffalo Wild Wings and get there early for the prime seats. I am joined by a throng of Packer fans who dont have NFL Network but have a need to watch the game. Soon the place is filled with a least 100 fans half dallas and half Packer fans. We all know how that game started. Wade Phillips deployed 2 deep safeties to short circut the deep ball Favre threw 2 horrendous picks then a well timed blitz by a Corner knocks Favre out of the game. I seriously considered leaving. I have dealt with Cowboy fans all my life and this is about to get ugly. Aaron Rodgers is about to turn the game directly into oblivion. Cue Bach, Beethoven or even Handel. Aaron Rodgers played played better in Texas Stadium than Favre ever did. I am sure Ted Thompson had an epiphany that night as well as much of Wisconsin. Michael Irvin said that he wished Favre would come back that game. BLF realized also that his star was fading. Brett would lead the Pack to the brink of the Super Bowl but alas it was not meant to be.
    HE RETIRED but the Pack had a more than adequate replacement already under contract.
    This B movie performance today and him invoking his daugther is right up there with Nixon saying ” I am not a crook”. Today showed me that Brett has never understood the mystique of the Pack. Even many so-called Packer fans who have only been Packer fans the past 15 years dont get it either. They dont remember suffering through David Whitehurst , Randy Wright, Blair Kiel, and that side-armer from Duke Anthony Dilweg. So they dont comphrend the Packers as cultural experience only as the football team. They dont know prior to 1995 Farve would either check into a dump off or find Sterling Sharpe. They dont know the significance of Terdell Middleton.
    Those fans I give a pass to because they believe that Favre and the Packers are one in the same. ESPN and the copycat network contribute to this false belief.
    Colin Cowherd uttered this vile tripe on his “broadcast” today. Calling Packer “hypocrites” saying we created Favre the diva. This is the same SOB that said New Orleans shouldnt be rebuilt after Katrina. Mr. Cowherd show up in Green Bay and make that statement and see how long you last.
    Anyway the sound bite world of today thinks the Packers are just another football team. True Packer fans know this is not true. According to Sports Business Journal there are only TWO NFL teams that have a National following one is the Pittsburgh Steelers the other is the Green Bay Packers. The Article stated that some would contend Dallas has nationwide following, but they conceded the negative view of the cowpokes outweigh the positive.

  • Rocky70

    “…..Brett has never understood the mystique of the Pack. ”

    A true statement. ….. It became all about BF many years ago. … The apologists fell prey to the BF PR blitz & now have little to say. … What was obvious to most is now obvious to all. …. BF was always thinking about BF.

  • donavon of texas

    i fell in love with brent because he was a packer. i did not fall in love with the packers because of brent. yes, i will choke every time i see him in purple. i wish none of this nonsense would have ever happened no matter whose fault it is or was. but he is just another rich self absorbed athlete to me now. brent the player is one thing, brent the person is some one i can do with out in green bay. he is a lucky man. he has made every thing work out to his choosing. i’m sure we all wish we could orchestrate our fate that way. but i would like to think i had enough money and fame in his situtation not kick a million fans in the nuts to get what i want.

  • Punk

    Well, well, well, welcome back Jon. The MIN are the reigning NFC North champions. Favre will play behind the best OL with the best RB in the Div. He has a talented corp of WRs including a #1 draft pick. Add to that MIN has one of the best defenses in the NFL and they play in a dome. Their #2 and #3 QBs are previous starters. Their coach is a student of QB guru Andy Reid and Favre knows the playbook and terminology like the back of his hand. Wow, its over, Metropolis (ie; Metrodome) is safe——–! And, the season hasn’t even started yet. What to do? What to do?

  • Matt Hayton

    This is a sad day in Packer history that could have been avoided, but because of 2 egos who couldn’t work together it is a tragic fate that all must endure due to their selfishness.

    Anyone, on either side who cannot admit fault on both sides is both niave and ignorant. This, as others have stated, was a long time coming…not since November 2007, but since April 2005 when TT when drafted AR. That day he chose to win with AR and start rebuilding the Pack as opposed to reloading with Favre.

    This entire mess has been brewing ever since.

    I will never forgive current management for their epic decision to move on, starting in 05.

    I will also never forgive Favre for putting on purple.

    What happens on the field this year will determine whether Traitor Teddy made the right move to go w/AR over Favre.

    No result is without remorse, either a fallen legend or my beloved Pack gets egg on their face. Any true fan wants no part of either outcome.

  • Pete H

    Let me sum up the next 400 or so posts……..Side 1: “TRUE Packer fans hate Brett Favre and he is one big pile of shit…never did anything right” Side 2: Brett Favre IS the Green Bay Packers and he is the ONLY reason they ever won a game while he was here” Can we move on now

  • Punk

    Matt Hayton, please explain your understanding of the word “Traitor”. Also, perhaps you could explain the rational of reloading w/ a 35 yr old QB, vs. rebuilding w/ a 22 yr old QB. It would appear that you lean a little to the BF side of the controversy so you should be very happy given what he now has surrounding him.

  • paul

    Favre has not been a Packer for two years now. The emotion and hate you all have towards him can be magnified a million by how much Brett wants to play. He is a football player, wants to play football, and the Packers didn’t/don’t want him.

    Al, you sound like a little girl scorned by her first boyfriend. Take the kiss, enjoy it, and move on.

  • Michael Legat

    Matt,

    Lately, I’ve come to tolerate your nonsense. Your post above proves that you are an idiot.

  • http://Orlando Mark

    Larry, I believe Matt was referring to the lost opportunity to win while #4 still could play at a high level. Second, he can’t play at that level for more than a couple of games so it doesn’t matter what he’s surrounded with. The worst case for us is Chilly using him like we should have, at this point in his career, as a backup part-time starter(for Rosenfels). I hope he’ll be stupid enough to go too long with a player who’s breaking down. I think the over and under for #4 being benched is 3 bad games in a row. Say game 8.

  • JeffN

    As a somewhat frequent postor on this blog and a Packer fanatic I feel it my responsibility to say at least something about this situation.

    The only thing I have to add is I don’t care. Hope everyone is back to talking about the 34 defense pretty soon and our high powered offense.

  • Punk

    I understand you perfectly, Mark. Arod fell into TTs lap and he would have really been stupid not to have picked him up. As to BF, he has obviously been in a decline since ’05, who wouldn’t in this business? I have no anamosity towards BF at all, I think him being in MIN is to our advantage.

  • Reid

    The only real problem I have with the whole scenario is that BF got his feelings hurt because AR was drafted, to me that is childish. I didn’t hear Al Harris or Charles Woodson complaining when we drafted about 5,000 cornerbacks in the past 5 years. Did Driver whine when Greg Jennings, James Jones, Jordy Nelson, Brett Swain, etc were drafted? I guess it’s different in that there is only 1 QB, but saying Brett is a grown man when he gets his little feelings hurt over another QB being drafted? Maybe he should act like a grown man? Did Rodgers complain when we wasted a 2nd round pick on Brohm? I’m sure we could dig up the draft boards and find dozens of players who have contributed more than Brohm and were drafted after him. BF is the one who has acted like the little girl scorned by her first boyfriend.

  • Pack4life

    I believe another part of this saga is that a soon to be 40 year old man has nothing that is more rewarding than football. I hate to say it but this path seems almost spooky, like Steve McNair. Mr TN Titan barred from the workout facility signed with Ravens, and according to teamates struggled to cope with life after football. Same agent same state hopefully not a similar ending.

  • matt

    Chew on this: what if the Vikings retire Favre’s number in their stadium before the Packers? What if they retire it at all? That would make me puke.

  • matt

    Michael Legat,

    I second your opinion of Matt Hayton. He is a fucking idiot. I may be crass, but at least I speak the truth.

  • Rocky70

    ” I believe another part of this saga is that a soon to be 40 year old man has nothing that is more rewarding than football. ”

    Great observation. ….. You’d think with his influence & celebrity status that he would have many, many interests after football. One has to wonder if the ‘good ole’boy act’ is actually the reality of BF. …. He might only be football & nothing else. … Too bad.

    Have to agree. …. In 2008, AR was obviously the next generation of GB QBs. …If I remember correctly, AR replaced a “retired” legend….. Yet some still blame the Pack. ….. It’s called delusional thinking.

    Sorry JeffN. ….. I can understand your desire to move on but BF is slated to play the Pack twice this year. … He’s back in the picture. …. As irritating as it may seem, it can’t be avoided. ………… Consider this: BF signed a two-year contract for $25 mil —– all guaranteed………. The ‘Favre Fiasco’ is not going anywhere anytime soon.

  • Pack4life

    Michael Jordan tried this and he was the undisputed king of the mountain. It was painful to watch then and it will be painful to watch now. When Favre was here he had trouble relating to the younger guys. Well that was 2 years ago how can it be better 2 years later? I expect teams will still focus on Peterson and dare Favre to go deep.

  • Matt Hayton

    matt and legat – how am I an “f-ing” idiot” for saying I want no part in this? Please explain. Namecalling is always easier than making a valid point, you are the 2 looking like idiots.

  • Devil’s Advocate…

    matt…………… The Vikes may have to retire Favre’s number. Half the fans don’t want much to do w/Favre any more. I for one, have a picture of Favre to get rid of (any takers). Maybe I could exchange it for one of REGGIE!!! Now, there’s the stud to thank for our Super Bowl!!! He has his number retired in not one, but two stadiums!!! Rest assured, Farve knows it’s a slap in the face to the Packers and the fans, signing w/the Vikes. At least now he’d have a legit excuse to call the Lions w/the Pack’s tendencies. I don’t know what kind of season they’ll have, but I told myself, I’m fine w/some of that stupid shit he pulled as long as he were to never put on a Dallas or Vike uniform. Good Bye Brent!!!!

  • Matt Hayton

    To set this straight I get, admit and am not defending Favre for his schenagins. What I don’t get is why everyone on here thinks current management has nothing to do with this mess. That is just as dillusional as saying they are completely to blame for it, which is not what I am saying.

    Both Favre and TT have slef-serving egos? Most on here eagerly admit Favre selfishness but are reluctant to be honest that TT is in the same boat. Go ask Andrew Brandt if TT has an ego, bet you’ll get an honest answer from him. No one batted two eyelashes when Brandt, widely regarded as one of the best cap guys in the league, left the Packers last year due to “irreconciliable differences” with Ted. But I’m sure you all will just blame that on Favre, too. Drink up kool-aid lovers!

  • 4205

    Brett will win some games and since it will be for a division rival I’ll be more disappointed than I was last year when he did it for the Jets. The real question is when he breaks down (and he most likely will – he doesn’t have the physical body or mental focus to play well through adversity like he used – when that was really his forte) will Chilly have to fortitude to take the ball away from him. Mangini did not. If he has the ability to play like Elway did his last couple years – avoid sacks (thus injuries) and hand the ball to the the halfback – he could take the Viqueens quite a ways provided they get every break (penalties, injuries, turnovers).

    TT / MM follow the proven philosophy that it is better to move on a year too early than a year too late. No regrets. I hope Brett does well enough to lose two games to the Pack and just miss the playoffs.

    I do agree it will be many years before he is welcomed into the Packer Hall of Fame – likely being admitted to Canton before Green Bay – unless he flops completely again this year (ala Jim Taylor with the Saints).

  • Michael Legat

    Matt,

    First of all, I never said you were an “f-ing idiot.” I merely said you were an idiot.

    Second, namecalling may be easier than making a valid point, but you have done neither.

    Third, “This, as others have stated, was a long time coming…not since November 2007, but since April 2005 when TT when drafted AR. That day he chose to win with AR and start rebuilding the Pack as opposed to reloading with Favre.” If you honestly believe this, then all of the explanation in the world won’t make a bit of difference. I could go on for paragraphs and paragraphs about how profoundly stupid this line of reasoning is, but you will clearly never get it. You believe what you want to believe – evidence, logic and common sense be damned.

  • Matt Hayton

    Here’s an article to stew on, drinkers:
    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/29524519.html

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    Matt – that doesn’t paint a very picture of Brandt. Arrogant and selfish. Probably the reason he is running a web site now and not negotiating contracts anymore.

  • Matt Hayton

    Legat if you don’t think they chose to move on by drafting AR than you are the one avoiding common sense. No GM in the NFL drafts a QB in the first round without the intentions of building a team around that player. The perfect example is Jason Campbell who was drafted right after Rodgers by the Pack and replaced Mark Brunell the very next year. It’s only common sense, Michael.

  • Matt Hayton

    Al-
    It also says that Bob Harlan, “praised him” and apparently Ron Wolf had no issues working with Brandt. Sorry, I’d trust the opinion and working relationship of those 2 individuals over TT anyday.

  • Michael Legat

    No team avoids drafting a quarterback when their starting quarterback ponders retirement every year. You act like preparing for the future is a bad thing. Ask Denver and Miami fans if they wish their organizations might have tried to have an ace QB in place following the retirement of their legends. Ask 49er fans if their Steve Young championships feel tainted or illegitimate.

    Ted Thompson did such a poor job of reloading for Favre that he only gave him the pieces to for a 13-3 season, something he only achieved one other time in his illustrious career. But that doesn’t count because he didn’t do it the way YOU wanted him to? Whatever, dude. You keep thinking that he operates like some Mexican soap opera villain. It makes you look much more foolish than you probably are.

  • Michael Legat

    Also, you’ve made it clear that you trust anyone over TT. That says more about you than him.

  • Jeff

    Sorry, Al. I know you have to write it, but . . .

    I’m not reading the blog.
    I’m not reading the comments.
    I’m not reading nor will I be listening to any news on the matter.

    I hope he goes 14-2 this year and loses to us in the playoffs in a gloriously competitive game for the ages. That is all.

  • Punk

    Rocky70, you’re pulling my leg. MIN paid 25Mil, guaranteed? And people complain about our management. I know he told them about the Cuff, so why would they guarantee?

  • 4205

    I remember the article when initially published. Bottom line is Brandt wanted to be Thompson’s boss and didn’t get the job. Probably makes sense for them to move on to different things. It says something that he hasn’t landed with another team (even with Holmgren and Wolf as references) although I’m not sure what.

    Seems like protocol and following the party line is important to TT. He certainly hasn’t made wholesale staff changes and probably just felt Brandt would have trouble working for him.

  • roy jamison

    I don’t know what happened with Andrew Brandt, but I emailed him and he was quick and responsive in giving me a very thoughtful answer. Obviously, you can’t judge someone on a limited contact, but I’ve emailed others who never gave me the time of day. I’m sticking to my promise not to say anything about the present GM till the season starts. I’m looking FORWARD to the next preseason tune-up and not looking BACK at former players.

  • Abraham

    I will still follow Brett and hope he brakes more records. I think many Packer fans see life through green glasses. These guys are players, they have no loyalty to us. How many players on the current roster are from Wisconsin? They are loyal to themselves or they would find a way to play for there home team. I for one am glad Brett is out of GreenBay. I thought he was a liability with the ball. I am Glad the AR is the real deal, to this point.

    Brett did not win a SuperBowl without the best defense in the league. He falls apart when it really counts, and the pressure is on.

    I will still watch him just like I did last year. But, I will be voting for the other team twice and year and if it comes to a division title for GB.

  • Matt Hayton

    Jeff-

    I have the same strange suspicion that this will all end in the playoffs. Now that would be a game for the ages. Could you imagine Favre and the Queens losing to us in the playoffs? As much as I have admitted disdain for TT, there isn’t a chance in hell I’d want to see the purple beat us in the playoffs! Go Pack Go!

    My goals for our team remain the same…go to the playoffs. If they accomplish that I am a happy camper beleive it or not…we just better beat them in the playoffs! Losing to them in the playoffs would make me puke!

  • matt

    Matt Hayton,

    You don’t know what a valid point is, therefore, you are what I said you were.

    “…trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table.”

  • packer_bob

    I think everyone here already knows what I think. It is still amazing to me the level of sniveling whining that some of you exhibit, “he’s dead to me now, sniff sniff”, like he was married to you assholes and you got dumped somehow.

    “Favre owes more to us than we do to him.”—This is the biggest bunch of bullshit ever. No players owe you a goddamn thing, other than giving effort on the field. Fans don’t owe him anything, but he certainly doesn’t owe Packer fans the say over how he lives the rest of his life. If he wants to play, and someone wants to pay him $10-25 million to do it, who is anyone to say he shouldn’t? You bashers act like he mugged your frigging mother.

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    p_b getting testy. I love it. Can I get my donation back I wonder?

  • roy jamison

    Let’s see…should I never play football again cuz the Packers don’t want me…or should I take that $25 million from this team in Minnesota?

  • Michael Legat

    Destroying his legacy in Wisconsin for an extra $25 million? How much is enough?

    And if you don’t think his legacy in Green Bay is destroyed your head is deep in the sand.

  • Pack4life

    It seems the Bears & Vikes have fallen on the sword before game 1. Cutler has had a full training camp and obviously is not on the same page with his receivers. There is not one Vike receiver in the same class as Cotchery,Coles and Keller on the NYJETs
    Look at Sanchez he is finding those guys. As Dom Capers has said systems dont make players.

  • zach

    Mr. Hayton…please explain to me what your draft picks would have been, you know, instead of ARod. No GM in football should fault TT for picking a qb like he did. After all, BF was what, 35 then? Even if he IS BF, 35 is nearing the end of decent playing years.

    TT handled the situation perfectly. He used his head, nothing else, to make that decision. He is, after all, looking to win. Kissing Favre’s ass as he rolls down the tunnel behind his walker is not what I call looking out for the best interests of the team. Just because you have a man crush on BF, does not mean everyone has to.

    If I were TT, I would have handled this whole situation by telling BF to get f–ked.

  • packer_bob

    Is this your donation, Al?

    “Now that all is said and done I can say I told you so. I’m not going to dig up the post, you all saw it so you know I said that when it came right down to it Brett Favre would decide coming back wasn’t worth the effort and he would remain retired.”

    If it is, you can have, I mean, take it back.

    Zack, you’re right, alot of this could have been avoided if TT had had the balls to tell Favre to get f-cked and just cut him.

  • packer_bob

    BTW, I agree their is no way in the world that TT could or should have passed on Rodgers. Some were saying he was the best QB in the draft and when he fell as far as he did there is no way to pass on him with aging BF.

    I have my problems with TT but that isn’t one of them.

    As far as destroying a legacy, I guess I don’t get that. Didn’t REGGIE retire, come back with the Pack, retire again, then play one joke of a season with Carolina? Or I guess if he’d had signed with the Bears or Vikes than I should think less of him?

    The guy wants to play football, I guess he’s supposed to be more worried about what you all think. MJ was a twat too, should have stayed retired the first, I mean second, time.

  • Michael Legat

    p_b, from 2 posts up, what would have been avoided, other than we would have avoided getting any compensation for Lord Waffle, and we would have avoided having to wait a year for his spite tour to come back to Lambeau draped in purple? Yeah, that would have gone over real well. Now if TT had done that, THAT would have ticked me off.

    What is lost on the apologists is the 1000 miles of difference between the way Reggie White cut ties with the Packer organization and unretired, and what Favre’s pulled for the last five plus years. It’s not that he unretired, it’s how he’s done it, and the consequences reaching across three NFL teams that seems totally lost on him. Hey, it’s great that he hasn’t lost anything in your eyes, but you can’t deny that it has changed the opinion of many, many people, which is kinda the definition of a legacy. Favre is wrong when he says his legacy belongs to him. You think Mike Vick’s legacy belongs to him?

  • roy jamison

    Legacy? You can’t buy a steak with legacy. The Vikes for just 12 million have elevated their revenue position from last to I’d guess at least 28th! Merchandising is a great thing.

  • Michael Legat

    Oh, I don’t blame the Vikings, though I don’t think that return on investment will extend to the playing field.

    I just hope Favre still feels it was worth it years from now when he is remembered as much for his bridge burning as his 16 years in Green Bay (and if you think he won’t be remembered that way now, you’re delusional).

  • packer_bob

    Mike Vick, now there’s 1000 miles of difference. This guy had no legacy before the dog fighting, unless you mean admitted laziness, flipping off fans, and an iconsistent ability to actually pass the football. As far as involving himself in dog fighting and covering up violations of federal law, yes, that does belong to him. What does that have to do with Favre again?

    He retired from the Packers once…..once. When he came back, we didn’t want him. So what, he pulled the Jedi mind trick on the Jets? TT didn’t exactly give him alot of options, and I seem to remember their GM courted Favre heavily, as did the Vikings this year. He wants to play, teams evidently want him to play for them unless he has the power of mind control, so what’s the problem again?

    Seems to me if this wasn’t Brett Favre, no one would be talking about it.