Packers take care of business

The Green Bay Packers went to the “Show Me” state and took care of business yesterday in rather convincing fashion. They took the Rams’ best punch early then poured it on late. The game was never really in doubt even though the team still has some problem areas. The offensive line was only marginally better against the Rams and the run defense gave up another 100-yard day to Steven Jackson. Heading to the House of Horrors in Minneapolis the Packers will need to improve greatly next Monday night in both areas to beat their arch rivals.

Had the Packers went to St. Louis and struggled to win a close game I would have had serious doubts about their chances in Minnehaha. The fact that they were able to put the loss to my team of destiny – the Cincinnati Bengals, behind them and focus on the Rams without looking ahead to the Vikings bodes well in my book. I think the Packers will try to use the same strategy on offense against the Vikings that they did against the Rams, which was to try and exploit a suspect secondary with the vertical passing game. Against the Rams it was like the other Al Davis was calling plays as the Packers went deep often and burned the Rams with big plays. If they can give Aaron Rodgers the time they should be able to do the same Monday night.

Obviously it is hard to look back at the Rams game with what is facing the Packers a week from tonight, so I won’t even bother. The Packers turned their attention to the Vikings walking off the field yesterday, and getting fired up for this game shouldn’t require many pep talks. For the Packers it is all about getting a win and taking over first place in the division, for the Vikings it all about revenge, at least for one player it is. Of course it should be all about revenge for all the Vikings’ players because since taking over as head coach Mike McCarthy has owned the Vikings, going 5-1 against them his first three years with the only loss coming when Mason Crosby missed a game-winner with 20 seconds left last year.

Everything begins and ends with Adrian Peterson and the Vikings’ defensive line and nothing changed with the addition of Brett Favre. In fact Favre is probably the least of the Packers’ worries as they know him better than he knows himself. McCarthy is the only reason Favre is still playing football today as he was able to take the gunslinger out of Favre and get him to play within his declining skills. The problem was those declining skills were grotesquely on display late in the year and especially in the playoffs, hence the move to Rodgers. Favre’s desire for revenge however, does have him playing with an energy that was never on display last in New York but it is an energy the Packers should be counting on when they face him for the first time. We’ve all seen first-hand how Favre plays when the stakes are high and you can bet McCarthy and defensive coordinator Dom Capers are licking their chops.

I expect Capers to pull out all stops, every scheme they worked on in the offseason may come out Monday night. Favre won’t have a clue where the blitz is coming from and the 3-4 has always been a problem for #4. Having Peterson makes things a lot easier for any QB but there will be times that the Packers will have their shot at Favre and it’s going to be fun to watch. If the Packers can contain Peterson and force Favre into passing another 46 times this week the Packers will have them right where they want them.

It will be a fun week, I can’t wait for Favre’s lies during his conference call with local reporters this week, that will be Comedy Central material right next to his contrived first retirement presser. McCarthy was upfront about the situation today admitting this game is lot bigger than any normal regular season game. Give him credit for not using the “it is just another game” cliche. Stay tuned. It’s Super Bowl week in the fall, and TV ratings will probably reflect that next Monday. I like our chances. In fact, I love them.

NFL futures

  • packer_bob

    Who cares how much cap room you have if you never use it?

  • packer_bob

    Quick fix? Again, Favre’s not there but Jenkins, Faneca and Woody are. The Jets got Thomas Jones the year before, and he’s still there too.

    Nobody’s saying FA is the complete answer, most of the current Jets are their own draft picks. But those FA pick ups are giving them a window to get there. I’m just saying, when you say “How’d that work out for the Jets” with regards to FA, they’ve had more success than they were and the whole story has not yet been written.

    And if Rodgers misses any substantial time, you may end up wishing we had Garcia.

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net Larry

    Well, p_b think of it this way. We have about 9 or 10 guys making 500k this year who will want anything from 1.5 to 2.5 in next years negotiations. Thats at least 10mil of the 23-26mil we have in the till w/o counting the already contracted increases; at a minimum of 10% would be another 12-15mil. Thats just the in-house obligations. All of this is conjecture on my part because I’m not about to run all the numbers plus the unknown factor of next year.

    I’m just saying we’ve seen MIN do this before and it killed them, We have seen what DET has done W/ all of those #1 high priced WRs, and now the Bearse have committed their next few years on a QB, WR(?), and 36 year old LT. Think those moves will put ‘em in the SB? Could happen, of course, but I’d bet against it.

    The frustration level seen here is calling for change for the sake of change, the names that pop up are has beens or too expensive, face it. Its a trap.

    The reference to the ’90s is valid, but a true team changer ala REGGIE isn’t out there.

  • packer_bob

    “Gee, some might have thought it a bold move when 23 others passed on him.” Most of those teams had needs other than QB. Also, if Rodgers had been drafted by San Fran and just thrown in right away as a starter, he might not have worked out either.

    Rodgers fell in our lap as a great value pick that could sit behind a veteran QB that still had skills but we knew was closer to the end than the beginning. That pick was a no brainer and was TT’s style big time, a potential number one sliding all the way into the 20′s and he has the best player available MO.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad we took Rodgers and said so at the time. But I don’t remember anyone lauding that pick at the time as “bold.”

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net Larry

    GOOD GRIEF, rebuttal as in argue just for the sake of arguing and ignore logic fact, AND history. Out!

  • packer_bob

    Who’s the receiver the Bears have committed big $ to? They gave some things up for Cutler, and I guess time will tell, but if you can’t already see that he can do things no Bear QB has been able to at least in my lifetime, then I don’t think you’re looking too hard. Pace is old but I think they picked up him as an upgrade, not a long term answer, and wouldn’t say he broke the bank.

    We didn’t need to make alot of the moves the Bears or Jets did. I’m not suggesting we should have over paid for someone like Haynesworth. But you wouldn’t like to see a Hutchinson or a Faneca on this line right about now? Or maybe Jerry Porter in the LB corps?

    It’s a fine line, Larry, granted, between overdoing FA ala Daniel Snyder and still having nothing to show for it or using FA to add pieces to the puzzle.

  • packer_bob

    Sorry, Larry, if you want to thank drafting Rodgers was “a bold move” we just disagree.

  • Matt Hayton

    Larry-

    What are we “waiting for”? It seems like you are content with us being mediocre? And you didn’t answer the question…if we don’t sign a free agent or make a trade. How do we fix that OL?

    One conern for me is that AR could take a shot that knocks him out and then our season is done. In fact with a piss-poor OL, our season will be done. Very rare you can win the NFL with a bad OL.

    My “future is now” comment goes back tot eh last 2 or 3 years ont hsi board when you and others have stated that we should be patient they’re building through the draft for the future…balh, blah, blah. Favre is gone. MM is in year 4, TT in year 55,w hich is a lifetime for many NFL coaches and GMs. I would think now would be the precious future you and other have said they were building for it. If it isn’t then when is that future?

    Would love to get your take on this, since clearly we look at this differently…

  • Matt Hayton

    Larry you speak very clearly of all of our internal obligations going into next season. Not to mention we need 2 OTs, now. They have Kampman, Collins, Spitz, Colledge, Clifton, Chillar, Pickett, Jolly and Blackmon all up to resign. No way they can keep all of these guys…which means they’ll have some hard decisions and more than likely end up with more holes in the roster a year from now than they do today.

    Meanwhile they’ve been building for the “proverbial future” with all of these guys. This is 8 impact players, Chillar & Blackmon are the only non-starters on this list…

    Clifton won’t be resigned for sure.

    Kampman they will more than likely let walk. Probably only keep either Pickett or Jolly, but not both. My guess would be Jolly since he is younger. And he’ll keep both of his precious pedestrian OLineman, which are sucking up the joint. Neither Spitz or Colledge are better than average OLineman in my book.

    Which means they’ll need atleast one more D-Lineman to go with Jolly. 2 OT’s and a guard if they are smart only keep one of either Spitz or Colledge.

    A safety because God knows he won’t overpay for Collins.

    And Kampman will be replaced by some of their depth from within. Don’t forget we will need to start replacing our bookend corners, as well.

    so while we’ve been building, and building, we’re now going to have to rebuild all over again. Meanwhile, we’ve wasted 5 years and have nothing to show for it.

  • Matt Hayton

    Regarding the D-Line meant to say one more DT to go with Raji, not Jolly.

  • jackson

    Geez! So many of you state that the Pack is done if Rodgers goes down for any length of time. However, you are the same people that state Favre does not make a difference on a team. It is the great team around him, blah, blah, blah…then you blame him for the team losing when he throws a few picks. Criticize at your convenience appears to be what you are doing.

    PS. Favre’s best play on Sunday was not the throw at the end to win the game, it was him running 40 yards with his team to take out a linebacker via a block. That is what pumps a team up. That is leadership, and you all loved it when he did it as a Packer. You can still be a Packer fan and respect what Favre does on the field.

  • http://Orlando Mark

    Matt H, after the good free agents went in the spring and no one of consequence was brought in I wrote this season off as developing young players. If we win our division great. But I think we should all realize next year is our best chance at a post season run. Larry, TT’s brought in good free agents in Woodson, Pickett and Chillar and the sky didn’t fall. The only thing they have in common were that they were bargains. We’re going to need some help on the O-line next year and the draft is a long shot so I hope TT takes next year seriously and signs a useful tackle if one is out there and resigns Collins(we’re a little thin there as well).
    Sorry to bring this up for the hundredth time especially with a great game coming up Monday.

  • packer_bob

    We needed some help on the O-line this year, we just didn’t know it.

  • roy jamison

    Matt nice post. OT and CB are going to need attention for sure. I hate to bring it up again, but swinging and missing on Harrell is something you don’t recover from for awhile. I’d like to see an upgrade at RB, but I don’t see that happening any time soon either.

  • Rocky70

    The best FA move the Jets made during the offseason was showing BF the door…. same as GB in 2008……..

    Dam that TT for signing Woodson a few years back …. Face it, the GM does doesn’t have a clue………. Look at our piss-poor defensive backfield now…… Er… Er…. Wait a second…. ……. Here’s an update:

    ” Cornerback Charles Woodson will be named the National Football League’s defensive player of the month on Thursday.
    It will be the second-straight year he won the award.
    Like last season, Woodson has three interceptions after the first month. He leads the team and is tied for the league lead in that category. “

  • Rocky70

    “….does doesn’t…..” is for PB so he has an easier time of twisting the post around.

    LOL.

  • Rocky70

    “….which means they’ll have some hard decisions and more than likely end up with more holes in the roster a year from now than they do today. ”

    Or less than now. You’ve disregarded too many factors.
    __________

    ” Clifton won’t be resigned for sure. ”

    Or if Cliffy stays healthy the rest of 2009, he’ll be starting in 2010.
    __________

    ” A safety because God knows he won’t overpay for Collins. ”

    Or Collins will be signed to an extension before 2009 is over.
    __________

    ” so while we’ve been building, and building, we’re now going to have to rebuild all over again. Meanwhile, we’ve wasted 5 years and have nothing to show for it. ”

    MH…. do you make up all this stuff up as you go or do you get help ? ……. You really need to hit the search engines & try a factual approach (for a change)….. Just say’in…… Guessing is easy, especially for a pseudo fan ……

  • packer_bob

    Rocky, if you’re not going to demonstrate where I misquoted you, or misconstrued your words, shut up about it.

    Then call MH a ball washer and then deny you said it.

    Nobody’s ever said Woodson wasn’t a great pick up, or that TT has never done anything right. You are the master of knocking down the staw man argument. Congratulations. Next tell me that the Earth is not flat.

  • Rocky70

    ” knocking down the staw man argument. ”

    PB, slow down….. Your making very little sense again.

    staw ?? Is that a word or just you paraphrasing again? …. LOL.

  • packer_bob

    Yeah, that’s it, don’t address the point. You never have a typo, do you?

    “Dam that TT “—-OH, I guess you do.

  • roadking

    what was farves record his last year with the pack?
    what was the packs record the year after farve left?
    enough said.

  • Rocky70

    Golden Oldies #1

    From MH from back in July:

    ” But it’s time to retract Al, not gloat…if he truly was a vengeful SOB as you have accused, he would be lining up in purple in Mankato next week, despite his body telling him it’s over…but he isn’t. ”

    Last I read BF was lining up in purple come Monday night….. Can we now call BF ‘a vengeful SOB’ ?

    It’s your line, buddy.

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net Larry

    Whoa, gotcha good Matt Hayton, I see a red glow in the eastern sky!

    Careful Rocky70, he who laughs last is the one who gets it last!

  • jackson

    Yeah Rocky,

    If someone wants to pay me 25 million dollars to wear purple for two years it would not be a problem. I’m sure you could not turn it down either. You are jealous and lost your boyfriend Brett. Quit acting like a scorned woman and enjoy the game. GO PACK!

  • packer_bob

    Golden not so Oldies, since they’re from the previous thread:

    Rocky says:
    “I see MH continues to hold the crown of BF’s most avid ball-washer.”

    Then MH says: ” Call me a viking fan or a cock-licker or whatever else you like or a Brent ball sucker. Clearly, someone who has to resort to those tactics is trying to compensate for something. You’re not worth my time. ”

    Then Rocky says:
    “I never said any of this….. You’re just rewording posts again to suit your own personal issues. … Please try to be more accurrate if you ever refer to any of my posts in the future…. Thanks.”

    Can we now call Rocky a lying horse’s ass? It’s your line, buddy.

    He was pretty accurate, with one r, Rocky. Is this—accurrate–even a word? But that’s right you, don’t make typos, just point them out–LOL

  • packer_bob

    By the way, when did you turn back up Rocky? You disappeared from here in the pre, and only turned up recently. Wasn’t much Favre talk around here until you showed back up. Is that why you’re back, because we’re about to play the Vikings? He’s your magnificent obsession, isn’t he?

    So that means after this Monday’s game you’ll disappear for another month until they play again? We can only hope.

  • Matt Hayton

    PB – I don’t know why you waste your time on him.

    Larry, I have no problem admitting Favre is a vengeful SOB, because it is quite clear after last weeks’ game vs. San Fran that his only motivation. It obvious the guy, has no passion in his belly for the game. Especially the last 2 minutes, he was just going through motions “not wanting to show GB too much” because all he cares about is playing us twice. Trying selling that to Singletary and the 49ers, doubt they would agree with you.

    BTW, still no answer on how we are fixing the line…oh wait, maybe that is the answer. we’re not going to fix it this year, Larry, now are we? And you truly have nothing to say here because you cannot admit you are wrong.

  • Rocky70

    @ Larry

    ” Whoa, gotcha good Matt Hayton, I see a red glow in the eastern sky!
    Careful Rocky70, he who laughs last is the one who gets it last! ”

    You are correct….. However, some people don’t realize that what they post on the internet is there for months, years or maybe even forever….. I consider this everytime I post anything…. My ‘gotchas’ are minor & mostly benign so I’m not worried….. It’s also the reason I restrict my use of profanity & rants & raves…. Hate to read an old post of mine when I was in a bad mood……….

    The key to “Golden Oldies #1″ is the number…… My vault is full…….

    Sorry PB…………… I’ll catch you next time.

  • Rocky70

    A. Reading a post based on opinion minus the facts………………… $1

    B. Reading a post of rambling, rants & raves…………………………. $2

    C. Reading a post where someone is trying to change, alter or back-track from a post from many months ago………………………………………………

    Priceless. ………….

  • roy jamison

    I’ll miss John Madden doing the MNF game because ya know, that’s ‘jus Favre bein’ Favre…Heck, he’s actin’ like a kid out there tossin’ the ball like he was in a schoolyard which I guess he does anyway when he’s retired, or thinkin’ ’bout being retired, or jus’ waitin’ for the season to begin..ya know, after pre season which Favre doesn’t consider being meaningful time anyways…yeah that’s Favre being Favre.
    But farve better are these….www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBW7ysPcbT0
    and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6xqlY-M-aE

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    Hey Jackson – talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Get over it already or join your alter ego Jon on the banned list.

  • Matt Hayton

    Ok…not going there. I try to be respectful to all this blog, especially the guy paying the bills…

    I did have an epiphany, though, this morning that thought I’d share with you all, that I’m sure will stoke the fire.

    I actually think all of us on here are diehard packer fans. But we disagree on philosphy of how the team should and is being run.

    My philosphy (Philopshy #1: Take Advantage of Windows of Opportunity) is to build a team through the draft but supplement it via free agency and trade in areas of weakness, including trading up in the draft for rare talent. I also believe that when you have a shot at making a SB run you need to go all out to win it then because there are no guarantees in the NFL and numerous teams without even one SB victory: Buffalo Bills, Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, San Diego Chargers, Philadelphia Eagles, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, New Orleans Saints, Arizona Cardinals, and the Seattle Seahawks. And all of these teams have been playing for atleast 10 years (including the NEW Cleveland Browns, which were refranchised in 1999). So it is quite easy to go 10 years or more without a SB win, so if you’ve got a shot, take it!

    This was Ron Wolf’s approach which led us to our last SB. And I not just saying Reggie White and BF, I’m thinking of guys like Eugene Robinson, Don Beebe and Andre Rison, Gilbert Brown, Earl Dotson, Santana Dotson, Doug Evans, Keith Jackson and Sean Jones…without the last 9 guys on this list, we don’t win that SB, it’s that simple.

    I do not believe in a “build for the future” and almost exclusively via the draft approach. I don’t think this is the best approach because:

    The average NFL contract is in the 3-6 year range, with most players not playing out that entire contract, the exception here is franchise QBs and Pro-Bowl players, who will be resigned most of the time. Meaning that your solid core team players in the approximate same age and contracts, have a 2-5 year window to win, otherwise a they won’t be resigned because they haven’t won/played well or b., they have won/played well and will make for a difficult decision to either resign that player or let them go.

    So that being said I think there is a window on any given NFL team in todays game, to win a SB in 2-4 years. There are some exceptions but this isn’t the norm (Patriots, although I think there window has closed, too).

    On the other hand (Philopshy #2: Built to Last), which many of you adhere to says: Build almost exclusively through the draft, grow your team from within, including it is prudent to trade dwon and stockpile draft picks because you increase your odds of success. And add a couple of free agents when they are bargains (Pickett, Chilllar and Woodson). But build a team for long-term success versus take advantage of the window of opportunity.

    My epiphany was that this is my problem with current packer management. I vehemently disagree with their approach. Many of you vehemently agree with the approach. My disgust with Packer mangement isn’t over them letting go of Brett Favre. My frustration is over not getting Randy Moss, trading up for AP, keeping Mike Wahle, not trading for Tony Gonzalez, not signing Matt Birk or Orlando Pace, etc.

    The other epiphany is that the Vikings adhere to Philosophy #1, while the Packers Organization employ Philosophy #2. So I am a die-hard Packer fan but not a fan of their current philosophy. I AM NOT and I REPEAT not a Viking fan, but a fan of their philosophy. The great thing is we’ll see which approach works as this unfolds this year and the next couple of years. Maybe both work, maybe neither, maybe one or the other.

    So let the games begin. Monday is the beginning of this case study as these teams, employing 2 different strategies to win a Super Bowl face-off!

  • packer_bob

    Well put, MH. It is a philosophical difference, although since I’m results oriented if TT’s approach results in a SB I’ll happily eat some humble pie. I just have strong doubts that it ever will.

    It’s like I said to Larry earlier in the thread, the Vikings looked at their team and said “This might be able to get us to the SB, how can we improve?” and went out and did it, not just in getting BF but also taking a risk in getting Harvin, and probably some other things I don’t know about. I think there is a huge mindset difference there vs. us. Our biggest FA acquisition was Anthony Smith, who we cut to keep three FB’s and Rouse.

    I think you and I agree that we still had enough talent after the 4-12 year (which followed what, 3 straight North division titles?) to re-tool and make a run at it, but chose another path. Will we look at this team next year, or the year after that, and say the time to win is now, let’s do whatever we can to make the push? I doubt it under current management.

    As far as Rocky, you’re right about ignoring him. He’s playing gotcha now with old posts, like that means anything. If I had the time, I’d look up the time he told me he wouldn’t stoop to someone else’s level in calling me packer boob, then post the multiple times he’s done it since. Since I think he’s an idiot, I guess that makes me a bigger one for trying to argue with him. As soon as you’ve nailed him, he just changes the subject anyway. Plus I’m sure people on here got bored with he and I going at it hammer and tong all the time.

    I’m going to employ your approach and let him shake his cane at whomever he wants with no response from me.

  • packer_bob

    As far as the upcoming ho-hum game, I was listening to WDUZ and picked up a fact I was unaware of. In six games vs. Dom Capers, BF is 6-0 with like a 118 QB rating and 18 TD.

    Last year, AP gashed us for 190 yards or so, and clearly he’s still priority No. 1. But is anyone else at least a little concerned about the gaudy #’s BF has posted against Capers. I wouldn’t even have guessed that he’s played a Capers D that many times. I was counting on a little unfamiliarity advantage, now I’m not so sure we have that.

  • Pack4life

    Matt I agree but only somewhat. Orlado Pace is done and trading up for AP would have been hard to do. I also dont agree with keeping Favre. Favre is a prime example of the law of diminishing returns. Favre was waffling on coming back every year then he retired. Brunell, Brooks, Hasselback all went on to produce for other teams while the Packers essentially got little in return.
    I cant stand TT’s lack of aggression we have a gaping hole at RT and nothing is being done about it. The Patriots have made 2 trades this year so dont tell me it cant be done. A serviceable RT is not too much to ask.

  • Rocky70

    I’m still po’ed about drafting Mandarich instead of Barry Sanders….. So what…….

    Wolf – 1 SB in ten ……..

    PB – the independent thinker who clears everything thru MH. ……..

    “Gotcha” keeps you honest…. It’s called accountability.

  • packer_bob

    P4L,

    I thought MH said specifically that his problem w/management wasn’t about letting BF go, it’s alot of the other things.

    Truth be told, even as big of a BF fan as I was, I had serious issues with TT before the “divorce” and even during that time my problem was mostly the way it was handled. (Before somebody puts me and BF’s genitals in the same sentence, read what Jerry Kramer had to say about it in the article on the home page.) I would have kept BF by preference last season simply because at that point I’ll take the proven commodity over the unknown one every time. But it’s over now, and moving forward this team needs youth over BF, so AR is definitely the best fit for the team now.

    Your point about the OL is well taken. Perhaps the line gels and grows together, but this far into a rebuilding project I think it’s ridiculous that they have looked so bad. They had better grow together real fast, or I don’t see much happening this year.

  • Matt Hayton

    P4L – This “non-move” to shore up RT is exactly what I am talking about. I’m lost why Levi Jones isn’t a Packer? God knows he’s better than Barbre and I don’t buy that he couldn’t switch to RT. If it’s not Levi Jones, then whoever the hell you wanna bring in. Just atleast try to fix it by doing something instead of sitting on your hands!

  • Matt Hayton

    PB -totally agree with you…

    P4L – As far as BF- Yes I was pissed when we let him go, but moreso in the how, than the what. If it wasn’t last year, it would’ve be this year or next year at the latest that we would have moved on, so I truly get that we had to move on at some point. The difference in 2008 vs. 2010 doesn’t matter.

    Honestly, what bothered me the most was the fact that WE DIDN’T MAKE ANOTHER RUN with him inbetween 2005-2007, when Tausch, Cliffy, Harris, Woodson, etc. were all still in their primes.

    But the trend continues with TT, which is what really pisses me off- he’s not making a run this year either, as well, by not bringing in Pace, Birk, Gonzalez or Levi Jones, now…

    I think Favre got sick of being good but never feeling like we had all the pieces in place to win a SB, who knows, maybe 4 or 5 years from now AR will get sick of it, too. And sign somewhere to try and win a SB if we continue down this path…wonder if everyone who hates Favre now for doing this, would hate AR, if he does the same thing.

  • packer_bob

    MH,

    “I think Favre got sick of being good but never feeling like we had all the pieces in place to win a SB”

    Don’t forget, though, that Favre himself commented a year or so prior to the 2007 season that he felt he was surrounded by as much talent as they had on the Super Bowl team since the 90′s, so I’m not sure what to think his take on that is. I think he also made comments here and there since 2005 about being too old to be on re-building team. Guess we’ll have to wait for the book.

    It actually precedes TT, also. I remember reading an interview with Ron Wolf where he was asked about his biggest regret. He said it was not surrounding BF with more talent so they could win more than one SB. Those were Wolf’s words, not mine.

  • Pack4life

    The Vikes have renamed their stadium Mall of America Field starting Monday. This is what the BF sweepstakes has to do with. Dollars

  • Rocky70

    Golden Oldies #2

    From MH from back in May:

    ” And if any of you are wondering…if Favre puts on a Vikings jersey, that to me would be vengeful and selfish and as much as I think he was wronged by the Packers, that is far worse to hold onto a personal vendetta and make 52 guys subject to you settling the score with your former GM…I hope we beat the hell out of him and the queens… ”

    Still feel the same way today?…. Just wondering.

    It’s your line, buddy.

  • http://www.cmswi.com Kevin

    Jesus dude that jackson guy who posted above must have it in 4 you. Whats wrong with Packer fans. Favre was booted out of Green bay plain and simple. We choose not to retain him and traded him to the Jets. Now for all you people that sucked Brett Favre’s dick for 16 years cant stand him because he still wants to play. I say bullshit, and none of you must love the game as Favre does. We will never see in our lifetime a quarterback as great as Favre. Last I checked Rodgers record as a starter was 8-11. Shit he wont even be a 500 quarterback yet this year in the league. Hopefully Monday night we can keep Rodgers upright so we can have a chance to win.

  • http://Orlando Mark

    Kevin, I’m sorry to say this but most of your comments about #4 have to be put in past tense. He WAS one of the greats. #12 is the better QB right now. If the Vikes win it will be due to superior talent on that team. A lot of the fascination of watching him now is waiting for a train wreck. His arm seems ok and he can read defenses but he can’t avoid a strong rush. And I can’t see him taking the punishment from all those sacks much longer. It will be worse when he has to play in bad weather. The only chance the Vikes had to keep him healthy was to limit his throws. But as you can see he threw 46 times last week, pretty stupid.

  • jackson

    Sorry Al, my last post was out of line. But I had numerous non-offensive posts deleted that really made my point and I feel that it made some of the Favre haters look bad resulting in censorship. I appreciate you not censoring me lately and was wondering what I have to do to donate money to the site to keep it going. Just please don’t delete people’s posts. If they want to make an ass out of themselves, or make others look bad with facts, leave the post up. Peace. By the way, I can still be a Packer fan and admire Favre for all he has done for football in general. Email or post how I can donate to the cause. Go Pack and keep it going Al. Lastly, Rocky, you are really in need of professional help. The anger is going to kill you. GO PACK!

  • Rocky70

    Sorry, “Action Jackson” but Al is smarter than to fall for your ‘sincere’ apology.

    “…… to donate money to the site to keep it going ……….. Email or post how I can donate to the cause…………. ”

    Hilarious….. Do it Al. …. And don’t make it cheap either…. In fact, get money from all of his aliases ………. You could set yourself up thru 2010………. if he pays up.

  • jackson

    @ Rockhead,

    You are so sick and angry that everyone on this site has called you out one time or another. I just want to show my true appreciation to this site and know there is a place on the home page to donate. However, I just want to know the protocol and best way to go about it. However, someone as sick as you would not even consider this. It is an olive branch to show my appreciation as most here have been posting much longer than you when you popped up about a year ago with you little, irrelavant posts. You are so sick and angry, old man, it is one of the first signs of Alzheimer’s disease. I bet your Viagra no longer works but don’t take it out on everyone else. God bless you and the Green Bay Packers. I will pray for you or should I say prey for you!
    And quit kissing Al’s ass, it is not becoming of you.

  • Rocky70

    Interesting tidbits about the upcoming game:

    In the six Minnesota contests over the past three seasons (2006-08), the Vikings have started five different quarterbacks. …….. BF is expected to become the sixth different Vike QB to face the Packers since 2006.

    Few rivalries in sports have had more parity……. The Packers own a slight advantage over the Vikings (49-46-1, including playoffs) in the all-time series.

    Including the first division game played in the ’09 season, the Packers own the best division mark over the three-plus seasons of McCarthy’s tenure at 14-5……. The Packers are trailed by Chicago (12-7) and then Minnesota (10-9) over that period.

    How close has this series been?…… Going back aways, 12 of the last 13 regular-season meetings have been decided by seven points or less, the lone exception being the Packers’ 34-0 blanking of the Vikings in 2007 at Lambeau Field.

  • Rocky70

    @ ‘Action Jackson”

    LOL……
    I was looking for a good laugh before I called it a day.
    You’ve provided it……….. Thanks much… ……………..LOL.

  • jackson

    @rockethead69

    Is that the best you have got? I shall move on as you are not a worthy of my time or intellect. Seems as if others on this site are doing the same. You are done…see ya.