Packers facing two must win games

The Green Bay Packers can paint any picture they want, but the bottom line is if they are to salvage their season they need to win the next two games and preferably the next three. Certainly the next two against the Lions at home and at Cleveland simply have to be won. There is no excuse available outside of losing Aaron Rodgers on the first play of the Detroit game that can justify losing either game. The Packers are in college football mode, they pretty much can’t afford another loss, for sure not in the division.

The Detroit Lions have lost 18 straight games in the state of Wisconsin and are facing a team on the brink. While the Lions are light years ahead of where they were last year, which isn’t really saying much, they should be no match for an angry Packers’ team. At least I hope the Packers are mad. They have underachieved on both sides of the ball thus far this year and are what they are at 2-2. Two convincing wins and 4-2 would look real nice going into the Vikings game in which the Vikings could very well still be undefeated. They also need two wins to keep pace with the Bears, who are looking better and better each week. The heat is on and it is hotter than ever since the Ted Thompson/Mike McCarthy era began in erst.

If I was GM for a day I would look at doing what I have to do to pry Steven Jackson out of St. Louis. The Rams have nothing to play for and I believe would gladly take a first or second-round pick to help them rebuild. Jackson would give the Packers the running back who can do it all – run up the middle, run the edge and most importantly, catch the ball out of the backfield, in other words it would make the Packers an instant contender. It would also be an admission of guilt to making a mistake on Ryan Grant but like Thompson’s mentor Ron Wolf would do is correct the mistake as soon as possible. Ask Ray Rhodes about that trait of Ron Wolf. Thompson can fix his mistake by getting Jackson.

Rumor is the Dolphins are dangling Ronnie Brown but I’m not sure he has the skill set to match the Packers’ offense, for one I don’t think he is as good of a receiver but he is younger and an awesome runner, which would make him more worth the compensation. Wolf, in his prime,  pulled the trigger on Keith Jackson and it is time for Thompson to make his signature move. Thompson, like Wolf, found a QB, but Thompson hasn’t found the remaining pieces, which I think comes down to his choice of head coach. Wolf went two-for-two, Thompson’s choices still hang in the balance.

We will probably find out what we need to about McCarthy over the next 12 games, especially if the Packers don’t suffer any major injuries. Against Detroit they should have pretty much their opening day lineup on the field providing Atari Bigby and Chad Clifton return from injury. No more excuses, even though losing Bigby wasn’t nearly has huge as losing Clifton. Now with Mark Tauscher back in the fold and on track to start by the Vikings game, the offensive line does actually have a chance to improve. I still want to see Scott Wells back at center and Jason Spitz at right guard. You can’t tell me that Wells is not one of the top five lineman on this team. I have not always been a Wells fan, but right now he is easily one of the top five and you find a way to play your top five no matter what.

Like the US Government and its DEFCON level I have my Packers’ confidence level and at this point in time confidence remains high. Well, maybe PACKCON 4, PACKCON 5 should be reserved for when we win the Super Bowl

More to come…

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  • Rocky70

    ” There are 12 games to go people. Two months from now we might be giving both an extension. ”

    Finally, a voice of optimism……… Some of you are going to be stumbling over yourselves trying to explain your misconceptions this early in season 2009….. Qualify for the playoffs & peak going into the playoffs………….. Nothing else matters….. 2010…… 2011….. Who cares?

    This constant historical analysis & comparison is moot………… Believe me, anything anyone conjures up to support a ‘cleaning of the house’ I can counter with ample evidence that it would be a mistake on the Packer’s part…….. So what? ………

    PB …….. you may ballwash any HC you wish………. Just remember the numbers & try to avoid the media hype……………. It’s misleading.

  • Rocky70

    MH

    You have now mentioned 12-4, 11-5, 10-6 & 9-7………. Which is it?…….. This is why your posts deserve ‘little’ attention…………. You throw so many darts that a few can’t help but hit the board…………… Typical, CYA.

    Is M. Tauscher ‘in’ today or ‘out’?………… Just wondering.

  • Matt Hayton

    Contract extension is different than keeping their jobs. 9-7 keeps their jobs; 11-5 + would deserve a contract extension. This isn’t rocket science…

  • roy jamison

    If Al is right that there is some kind of anatomical connection between the double consonant boys, we’ll continue to see them till at least 2011. When they signed that 5 year deal with MM in Feb of 2008 for 4 mil a year, they were taking a walk on the limb because of one great season. It runs thru 2012, and I doubt we’ll see a change no matter what happens. That’s life. It’s like trying to fire a politician we elected…it ain’t gonna happen.

  • Rocky70

    ” Contract extension is different than keeping their jobs. 9-7 keeps their jobs; 11-5 + would deserve a contract extension. This isn’t rocket science… ”

    Wouldn’t your posting days be over if TT & MM got an extension ?…….. You would have nothing left to bitch about…………… Add to that the annual “BF Swoon” & my guess is that you & your aliases will be gone by December…………….

    How sweet it will be.

  • packer_bob

    Rocky70 says: “The future is strictly based on opinion…………. Some people believe they have knowledge of the future………”

    Then says: “Some of you are going to be stumbling over yourselves trying to explain your misconceptions this early in season 2009.” (What the misconceptions are exactly, you don’t say.)

    And this:”Add to that the annual “BF Swoon””

    So you basically KNOW the Packers are going to turn it around and that Favre is going to sputter? You should have said “Some people believe they have knowledge of the future……And then there’s those of us that actually do, like myself.”–LOL.

    By the way, saying Holmgren or Cowher would be an upgrade over MM isn’t exactly “ball washing.” And as usual, you miss the point. By your standards it is almost impossible to find a great HC in the SB era. Parcells? “ONLY 2 SB victories in 17 years. Pitiful.”

    Pure idiocy.

  • Michael Legat

    While I am often more on the Rocky side of seeing things, I do agree that the Super Bowl or bust view of players, teams and coaches basically leads to a lifetime of disappointment as a football fan. I actually would be content with falling just short of the Super Bowl for several years. There are still many franchises that have never won one.

  • Rocky70

    ” So you basically KNOW the Packers are going to turn it around and that Favre is going to sputter? ”

    That’s my hope………. Call me a crazy optimist…………. Or a Solid PackFan………. Your choice…………….. I have nothing to hide…………. Can you say the same?

    But you are at least partially correct………. Vince was truly the last ‘great’ HC in the NFL………. All the rest aspire to equate themselves to him……….. Thus, the “Vince Lombardi” trophy to the SB winner………… Isn’t it obvious?

    Please (again) don’t misquote me…………. or add to my postings……. Very rarely do you get it correct……………

  • Matt Hayton

    If we go, 11-5 or 12-4, you are right, there would be nothing left to complain about and I hope to God that happens! That’s the point, but you are too stupid too realize that.

    For any true Packer fan it’s about US winning, not about ME being right on some frickin blog! I am all about the Packers winning, period! All I care about is, US winning, going deep into the playoffs consistently, and having a shot at winning a SuperBowl, but I don’t think MM and TT are the guys to get the job done.

    If they are, sobeit, because as a diehard Green and Gold Packer fan for over 25 years, I care more about the team, than I do about being right as an armchair GM. It would be nice if you took the same approach to your posts, instead of being all about YOU, all the time. Go back to Buffalo, TO!

  • Rocky70

    @ ML

    ” While I am often more on the Rocky side of seeing things, I do agree that the Super Bowl or bust view of players, teams and coaches basically leads to a lifetime of disappointment as a football fan. ”

    Actually, I can’t dispute your statement…….. The 70s & 80s drove that point home……… However, when one lowers his qualifications of success, he is basically conceding the ultimate prize to someone else ………… The Steelers & the Patriots have won 5 of the last 8 SB………. Throw in the Colts & Giants ………… These four teams have basically dominated for a decade & one of these four will probably win again in 2009…….

    At this point in the season I can think of many reasons why GB will succeed………. The focus by some on the ‘negatives’ only serves as an easy out………. Lower your expectations then you won’t be disappointed………. It’s self-serving & unrealistic.

  • Rocky70

    @ MH

    I liked it better when you didn’t respond to my posts……. Could you go back to that ?………. I know when you revert to name-calling & the use of terms like “stupid’ you are just frustrated……. Therefore, I will not harbor any ill-will…….. No apology required on your part……..

  • Matt Hayton

    Rock- No olive branch? Nothing along the lines of “hey we’re all just fans of the same team and care about the Packers success!”… It’s still about this banter back and forth? As usual, it’s all about you, TO! I, I, I, ME, ME, ME. Nice, kinda shows your true colors, if you ask me. Why don’t you stick to the subject matter of this blog, which isn’t you, if you needed a reminder…

  • packer_bob

    Rocky,

    I say again, show me where I misquoted you. You can’t on the one hand talk about how none of us can see the future and then flip the script on your particular talking points, and make statements like you know how it’s going to turn out. Well, you can if you’re running for office I guess, but if you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth, don’t object when someone calls you on it.

    Favre’s arm could fall off the next game and it wouldn’t bother me. The Packers could run the table the rest of the way and I’d be elated! But I wouldn’t presume to act like I KNOW those things are going to happen, and you don’t usually qualify your particular statements with “I hope this will happen” or anything like that. You predicted the Lions upsetting the Vikes a couple of weeks back, and Favre looking 60 in that Monday night game, how’d that work out for you?

    The bottom line is none of us know what is going to happen, and if I did I would too busy betting on gambling sites to have much time for this blog. (Not to mention it wouldn’t be very exciting to watch the games.)

    Do I “hope” we get our shit together the rest of the way? Hell yeah. But to state that it is going to happen is just as much BS as for some negativist to say they KNOW we are going to suck. They’re two sides of the same coin. That’s all I’m saying.

  • Rocky70

    ” Nothing along the lines of “hey we’re all just fans of the same team and care about the Packers success! ”

    Sorry, but, I just simply don’t believe your latest line……. I’d like to agree with you but what solid PackFan makes the comments that you do……….. You ID most of the Packers as busts, you spent endless lines trying to equate the ’96 Pack with todays Vikings & you are hell bent on firing someone……. Rarely do you point out the positives…… as if there aren’t any. ……………. I know many people who are PackFans who are critical but they don’t come close to trashing the team as you do.

    You may not like my style or directness but I’m consistent in what I post…….. Here’s my olive branch ……….. no more back & forth……….. I’ll just simply ignore your posts…………. I can do that easily.

  • packer_bob

    Not to Rocky, or MH, or anybody in particular.

    But are the Packers so far this quarter of a season looking anywhere close to what you expected? Look deep in your heart and reflect on that question for a minute.

    I know for me, the answer is no. There are some positives, some negatives, and without breaking down what they all are cuz I think most of us know the details, it balances it out to a distinctly mediocre team to this point.

    We should be able to stomp the litty-bitty-Kitties into Guava jelly this Sunday. I won’t take much satisfaction from a huge victory, cuz it won’t mean much. But a big victory may be the springboard to getting the mo-jo working for the rest of the season, in the way I think most of us suspected from the start. From the acorn, grows the mighty Oak.

    Let’s hope for the big victory and we get jump started from there! The future is not written, and I am yet hopeful for how this season turns out. I will reserve judgement for the next several weeks and see what kind of team we really have at that time.

  • Oddball

    Sorry Packer_Bob. I’ll be honest about it – I don’t want to think about what I was thinking about back in August. I just want to see some solid football

    Generate a pass rush – that freak Vi-queen had near as many sacks against us as our entire team has had this full year. That’s just wrong.

    Protect our QB

    Win

  • Ghost of Scooter McLean

    Of the last 25 posts in this thread, 17 are by Packer-Bob, Rocky70 & Matt Hayton. Have you guys nothing better to do than this continual you said / he said / I said banter?

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    p_B and MH, just like R70 and me it’s not so much what we say that irks the other blogers, but how often we repeat it and then argue the same points over and over again. I agree and try to stay away until I think I have something new to add. Then some point is made that I disagree with and I react like a stick was jabbed in my eye.

    I guess thats what fandom is; nothing but opinion anyway, bolstered with a few historical facts thrown in.

    Remember this, however, none of us know the master plan to get us to the ultimate goal of a Super Bowl. I’m not 100% sure that is a goal, but rather a result or benefit. I would think the true goal would be a legit contender and Div champ every year, because that final step to the winner of it all always depends on a hell of a lot of luck. Having a perenial Div champ only increases your odds. Thats reality.

  • 25 Yrs Pack

    Hate to add fuel to the fire, but maybe our offensive line isn’t that bad
    http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/64396032.html

    Read quick before its gone

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Thats not fuel to the fire, 25Y, thats real football info to chew on and digest. Does conjure up more opinion, however. For those of us who are believers it gives hope to this young line. I’ll live with Clifton and Tausch for the rest of the year as a stop gap, but Lang and Barbre have to have their noses rubbed in it to gain the experience they need. Unless a saviour is found in the draft next year they are our future at OT. Next year they start – damn the torpedos!

    While I’m at it, I’m beginning to think I was wrong about the new conditioning and strength plan which was designed to cut down on injuries. Doesn’t seem to be working. Seems like last year all over again; maybe we should be back to strength and conditioning rather than the other way around.

  • Matt Hayton

    yep, agreed scooter. I’m giving this up for a while. gets my blood boiling too much.

  • 25 Yrs Pack

    Yeah I read it as hope. I just hate having the bf involved in talks about our team. But it shows that our line is good for up to 2.5 seconds! You CAN build a real west coast offense out of this line (this line is what the WC was invented for). We can be a high powered quick passing team and the game with our lines “worst” performance actually shows it. I think AR should try to get running out of his mind. Mabey if our running back actually ran the ball more, AR wouldn’t have to think about it. Yeah if its the 4th quarter and we need the first, than think about the run. When its the first half especially, just throw it away.

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Buck up, Matt, ain’t gonna happen………….! Besides, since you write such long posts it just gives us more to attack and disagree with……..right?

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Oh, by the way, Matt, how did you like that 25Y input, you didn’t comment?

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Well, 25Y, the counter to “holding the ball too long” is that he has (7) 1st downs running and thrown (1) Int. according to Philbin. Hey, I’d take another Starr that can run; the league is getting more, smaller QBs that can run every year, hence the Wildcat. Think about where we’re at IF (the big IF) this line proves out in a couple of years. That would make our most pressing need a Running Back that can hold onto the ball and make cut-backs. Then you have that contending team every year for a while.

  • 25 Yrs Pack

    True. But I also believe that although running QBs can take you into the playoffs, they can’t win championships (in modern football). Any defense that makes it to the super bowl, can shut down the wildcat. Steve Young may have had some happy feet, but Jerry Rice was also a pretty decent guy to take attention off him in the scramble. Can’t really think of any other running QBs lately with rings, i’m sidetracked being at work with all these reports and spreadsheets to worry about.

  • Oddball

    Hmmm – looking at stats. Ya know, it’s not simply “time to release” and “time to sack” – you also have to wonder what’s going on during that time.

    My recall is that Favre was mostly clear to make his throws, had clear throwing lanes, didn’t have people hanging on him all the time – Rodgers was under more pressure throughout his dropbacks.

    I’ll have to go back and look at the game again, but my impression during the game was that their receivers were getting better seperation than ours were as well.

    There’s also the cumulative effect of the sacks. I don’t know how many of you have been hit by men with the size of speed of a Jared Allen, but playing a bit of rugby, I’ve come as close as I ever want to. It wears on you after a while. How many times did we even pressure Favre?

    And part of this is experience – you just can’t expect a guy who’s starting his 20th game to assess a defense and pull the trigger as quickly as a guy who’s been doing it since Christ was a corporal and has done it pretty doggone effectively.

    Be honest about it. We’re comparing a relative pup facing a serious pass rush with what has to be described as a patchwork O-line and a pedtestrian RB to a first ballot hall of famer with the likes of McKinnie and Hutchison in front of him, possibly the best RB in football behind him and facing a pass rush that has 5 sacks all year. The fact that Rodgers was still gunning late in the game speaks well of our man in my not so humble opinion.

    All that being said, there’s little doubt that Rodgers needs to get the ball out quicker; I’m confident that his reads will speed up, and he will learn to get rid of it as time goes on. That’s not going to happen overnight; I think it’s much more a function of game experience. In the meantime, the line needs to clear throwing lanes, protect better, and run block better. The receivers need to clear coverage better and McCarthy needs to game plan and teach this young man.

    He’s thrown for near 1100 yards 6TDs to 1 INT with 100 yards of rushing and another TD on the ground. Extrapolate those stats to 4400 yards, 24 TDs, 4 INTs, 400 yards rushing and 4 ground TDs, and I have to think most NFL teams would be pleased as freaking punch to have our man. The kid is pulling his weight. Rodgers’s pace will improve with experience. The rest of the team needs to help him survive to get it.

  • Bob

    Still if we had protected Rogers in those games we lost, We are undefeated! no doubt about it! we have been scrambling on the O-Line for way to long now! a lot of these guys have had their chances to grow and become solid players, One problem we have is we hold on to bust way to long, Ted Thompson needs to admit his mistakes and move on. Not every GM hits gold every single time. But He has a problem with thinking that He never makes mistakes!

  • 25 Yrs Pack

    Very True. He hasn’t even started 2 years. Look around the league at teams with Actual QB problems. Those are bad QBs. Quinn and Stafford. If only AR had a time and place where he could practice getting rid of the ball in under 3 seconds. Like is there was someway somehow, a coach could time him and run the plays over and over again getting the ball out with two good corners on the receivers and a pass rush……geez, cant think of anyway outside of game day where this could occur. Sarcasm anyone? Pretty sure this is what practice is for, MM.

  • packer_bob

    Scooter says”Have you guys nothing better to do than this continual you said / he said / I said banter?”

    I know I don’t. I’m still trying to pad my lack of achievement stats for my run at next year’s Nobel Peace Prize.

    Wasting alot of time on this blog is a vital component to my three pronged strategy, so I can’t abandon it, sorry.

  • 25 Yrs Pack

    PB, your still making to many valid points in these blogs to win my vote. You also show consistancy in your stances. Better make some changes if you really want a run at next years prize.

  • packer_bob

    Scooter says:”Of the last 25 posts in this thread, 17 are by Packer-Bob, Rocky70 & Matt Hayton.”

    Having nothing better to do than lay in bed with this laptop, I took the time to count back those 25 posts, Scooter, and your math was impeccable.

    The score: Rocky: 7 posts. MH: 6 posts. P_B:4 posts. So even trying to under achieve by screwing off, I am still the biggest under achiever!

    I’m going to start writing that Nobel speech now! I’m a shoo in!

  • Oddball

    25 yrs Pack:

    “Rodgers’s pace will improve with experience. The rest of the team needs to help him survive to get it.”

    In that phrase, I meant experience to include practice, conditioning, film study, mechanics as well as “in-game” experience.

    He did release 22 passes in less than 2.25 seconds. Clearly he’s not incapable of a quick release. What was going on in those other 25 pass plays? Coverage? Longer routes? Collapsing pocket? Rollout? Was he just being a bonehead? Without actually tearing the game apart nearly frame by frame – sorry, I love the Pack, but I’m just not going to do that – I can’t say.

    But it would be an interesting exercise.

  • Oddball

    Sorry for the self-contradiction there – sarcasm stings sometimes.

  • 25 Yrs Pack

    I just got urked in the ESPN article when AR said, “yeah my clock may be off, but i’m not going to change what i’m doing.” (paraphrasing, not exact). So he was right not to throw the line under the bus, but could have left that last part out.

  • Oddball

    Not exactly a shining press moment there.

  • Devil’s Advocate…

    If the O-line suddenly finds it within itself and blocks to a standard that we expect, his clock should be just about right….. Depends on your philosphy. Move your standards down to their level or try to pull them up to the level they should be.

    Of course, sometimes all your receivers aren’t running wide open and you’ve gotta run, buy time, go down w/the ship or create a play out of nothing (a little back shoulder throw to your single covered guy and see if he can make the play on it).

  • Rocky70

    Sorry Scooter but…..

    ” Of the last 25 posts in this thread, 17 are by Packer-Bob, Rocky70 & Matt Hayton. Have you guys nothing better to do than this continual you said / he said / I said banter? ”

    If the three of us didn’t post (regardless if you approve of the content), days would pass without any new posts……………. you newbies show up once a week, spill your brains & then disappear…… Just on this thread alone there are numerous 1st time posters who stop-in, make a flippant remark & then are never heard from again………… The banter between MH, PB, myself & a few others may not always look pretty, but at least it’s something to maintain the flow………..

    BTW, your 3 posts over the last 30 blogs isn’t nearly enough to fuel the engine………….. Good blogs have conflict & passion ………….. Kinda like real life.

  • Michael Legat

    …And telenovelas…

  • Oddball

    Hail, Rocky! Blog savior and pigskin pontificator!

  • http://Orlando Mark

    A little bit of good news that I’ve been looking for. Quinn Johnson will finally be activated. Now if the coaches will only give him a chance to play we might see a difference in the run game.

  • packer_bob

    How about ol DD getting ready to be the all time Packer leader in receptions? A worthy name to stand at the top of the heap, imo.

    I don’t remember the year but it was the game Atlanta knocked us out of the playoffs. I think we went 12-4 for the year but limped into the playoffs with an embarrassing loss in the final game at NY Jets. Then in that playoff game, I think we had injury problems, KGB was playing with the flu, Driver had a bad shoulder but was playing—just your basic Packer nightmare.

    Anyway, I think it was early in the 3rd quarter and DD goes up and makes a grab for our first TD of the game, in traffic with us getting our asses kicked, and lands right on that bum shoulder. They had to help him off the field, he was hurting bad.

    It would have been so easy to quit on that game, or give in to the injury, but there he was laying himself out. One of DD’s signature receptions in my mind, and he’s had my respect ever since.

  • Reid

    Rocky70 Says:

    October 16th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
    Sorry Scooter but…..

    If the three of us didn’t post (regardless if you approve of the content), days would pass without any new posts…………….

    Rocky – I agree with most of what you post, but you all are like a broken record. I may only post every day or so, but at least I don’t repeat myself over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over…….

  • Bob

    If our offensive line played with the heart and passion of Donald Driver we would be ok, not great but ok. Driver is a true leader on this team. I’m happy that He will be at the top of the record books for the Pack. Congrats Donald on a well earned record.

  • 25 Yrs Pack

    Double D is the man. I swear he works harder than any player on the field every play. If he catches a 2 yard pass with two defenders on him, he’ll fight for his life to get even 1 extra yard. If we started 11 DDs on game day, you would atleast know every man gave it his all and left it there on the field. He will get his hands right and stop any drops he may have. For as many moves as he makes when players are trying to tackle him, he protects the rock better than anyone. I have no respect for DD haters, if any of you scumbags are lurking around. I only hope GJ learns a thing or two from DD, like keeping his mouth shut and fighting for the ball. Sometimes running good routes (as GJ says he does) isn’t enough. If DD could only run good routes, he probably would have been cut a couple of years ago.

  • Oddball

    Driver-haters?? Is that even possible? That’d be like hating mom’s chicken soup.

    Donald might never make the Hall of Fame, but he should. One of my all time favorite Packers.

  • packer_bob

    No doubt, Oddball, who the hell hates on DD? I’ve never personally heard anybody bitch about him, ever.

    If anything, he’s been one of the more underrated receivers of the last several (6-7)years in my opinion. If he played for the Giants or the Cowboys or somebody like that, he would get way more national attention than he currently does. All the Pack fans I know realize how special he is, so at least he get’s love and respect from the fans.

  • Ghost of Scooter McLean

    Sorry Rocky, but…

    “If the three of us didn’t post (regardless if you approve of the content), days would pass without any new posts……………. Good blogs have conflict & passion …………..”

    …this blog was a rollicking good time long before your arrival and your version of passion / conflict pales in comparison to the “Jon Wars” of last season…

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    To all of those who constantly call for the FA and trade moves, I suggest you watch the Bearse for the rest of the year. In addition to the Pack, of course.

    CHI has taken themselves out of the top of next years draft in, what I call, one of those cash in everything for the “now” you guys so desparately want. We’ll see how that works for them.

    The positions and needs may be different, but the concept is the same: Forfit the future for today. BTW how is Orton doing over there in DEN, anybody know?

  • http://Orlando Mark

    Larry, there’s a big difference between the Bears and what we’re asking for. Two free agents who can start in the NFL. It would cost us some money but no draft picks. We have the money and god knows we have the need. We don’t have to forfeit anything. Where would we be without Woodson and Pickett. It’s been three years since we got them and precious little since then. How hard is this to understand. We’re too young. While our young guys are learning on the job we’re missing the chance to be a good team. “wait till next year” is a sad refrain but that’s where we are.

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