Bring on the Queens

The Green Bay Packers racked up another dominating win over a team there were supposed to dominate and now face their second measuring stick of the season when the ViQueens bring Wisconsin’s favorite/hated son back to Lambeau Field. The Packers absolutely destroyed the Browns and they should have. Packers’ quarterback Aaron Rodgers said the Packers scout team played the Browns defensive scheme better than the Browns did. How sad is that?

The Packers actually committed to the running game early so when Rodgers went to the air, everybody was wide open, it was like watching an out of conference college game. The Browns, like the Lions, simply have no players. It doesn’t matter what scheme you run if you don’t have the players it ain’t going to work. Fortunately, the Packers have the players on both sides of the ball. Sure, there are question marks on the offensive line and running back, but overall the Packers talent level was clearly on display Sunday against Cleveland as it was last week in Green Bay.

Certainly the talent level the Packers will face on Sunday against Minnesota is of equal or greater value, but the Packers have a little confidence now and that goes a long way. This could be really interesting with Brett Favre making his return to Green Bay as part of the enemy. The venom runs deep here and while he will have his supporters, and I suspect this game will have a ton of Vikings’ fans in attendance, I could see the crowd either booing or being extremely loud on every single Queens snap. In fact, I expect none the less.

The Queens will no doubt be planning for that and Favre is a master of the quick snaps and quick hitters, he worked it to perfection last year when the Jets beat Tennessee in Nashville. Do the Packers go all-out blitz and risk the consequences? The game plan they used three weeks ago wasn’t exactly effective even though they did not give up an unusual amount of yardage. Inability to get off the field on third down was the big factor. Offensively, will the Packers try to run the ball more even though they know it will be much tougher sledding than it was against the Browns? Will Ahman Green be able to come in and run a few screens to take the heat off the Vikings pass rush?

One of the biggest questions is who will start at right and left tackle? Is left tackle Chad Clifton better at less than 100 percent better than rookie T.J. Lang, who has performed well spelling the oft injured Clifton this year? Is Alan Barbre a big enough liability that Mark Tauscher starts in his place in a crucial game having been out of football almost a year? My guess is Clifton and Barbre start but both Lang and Tauscher get a series or two. I like what I’ve seen of Lang.

The Packers can make a huge statement Sunday, and I know I just probably jinxed them by saying that, but wow! What a victory would mean. The Packers would move back among the elite in the NFL and with a quarterback as good as Rodgers that is where they belong. The old man beat the kid the first time out, I think it is time for the student to become the master. Confidence is high.

  • jonnyfootballhero

    This is scaring me Al, I find myself agree with you more often than not lately. I feel great about the Packers chances this week. I really want to see some agressive defensive calls against the Vikes this time around; lots of blitzing.
    My only disagreement is that I think they should start Lang at LT and only put Cliffy in if Lang is struggling. Same thing with Barbre. If either of them gives up more than one sack, yank em! It’s time for the young guys to step it up and prove they belong on this team. I just don’t feel that Cliffy’s got what it takes anymore and I felt really good about what I saw from Lang and Barbre the last two weeks.
    Also, wasn’t nice to see Hawk having an a good game for once this year? Hopefully he keeps building on it and the LBs can finally be a dominating force that we were all hoping they’d be this year.
    I know the Pack played two cupcake teams the last couple of weeks, but they really played well and I’m starting to feel like they’ve turned the page and are ready to make a statement this week. I got lots of love for the team this week, I really hope they don’t let me down.

  • 25 Yrs Pack

    Student becoming the master, finally a pro Pack story coming out of sportscenter and the announcers? What a day that would be. As long as a W is the result it doesn’t mater how we got it. As long as the Pack concentrate on shutting ap AND bf we should be fine. Chilly seems to mike meartz’n his way out of the running game in the last few weeks. Constant pressure on bf is a must. Might as well keep Kamp on all 4 since i don’t see him catching AP in the open field anyway, oh yeah, and Kamp rushing the qb is working. Imagine that, our best pass rusher does good when rushing the passer. No winfield for the vikes, hopefully no refs playing for the vikes, take away the dome penalties and hope we stay disciplined, and it should be our game to loose.

  • Richard Krause dic d

    I’d feel a lot better about are chances against the Queens if I thought the officiating were on the up and up. All too often, I think, the officials like to be the center of attraction and determine the outcome of the game.

    Deek

  • Pack4life

    The # 6 RB in The NFL in Yardage is Ryan Grant. I’ll Take it !

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Something for the stat happy crowd in keeping w/ the student/master genre. And, Favre did give Arod a lesson last time. On turf, at home!

    Favre still the man to the press because of the 350 some yds last week. However…Arod while only #10 in yardage last week had the highest rating at 155. 4 above him in yardage, lost, he tied 3 above him with 3 TDs, only one other had no sacks, and only one other had no int. As high as the “master” is put he was directly responsible for 2 D TDs on and int and fumble.

    As I always maintain, statistics can say anything you want them to….!

  • iccyfan

    Nothing earthshattering here, but I believe our key to victory is staying disciplined. The DL, LB’s and safeties have to stay in their gaps and control AP, which they did pretty well in game one vs the vikes. More importantly, we can not afford to give BF free first downs on penalties, nor can we kill our own drives with such. I’m at a loss to explain why the Packers incur so many penalties, but I hope they stress discipline in practice this week and we curb that inclination!

    Lastly, without Winfield as a shutdown corner on one side of the field, the already pourous vike pass D should be downright exploitable! They’re going to bring the heat so I hope we get the short passing game going immediately…

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Sounds like a plan, Iccy, but I’m very concerned because one of our regular posters, not to long ago, stated we have the “worst OL in the NFL”. What am I to think?

  • Larry

    Not having to worry about the crowd noise is huge for GB. Bigby and Matthews will make a difference as well.

  • Bob

    I believe Finley is out for this game, that hurts us a little, Finley is huge in the quick passing game that we need, hope that Lee can catch the ball this week!

  • Devil’s Advocate…

    Like my Mama says: If you don’t have anything nice to say about someone, don’t say anything at all!!!!!!

    But that’s never stopped a few of the guys on here. Guess they just don’t have anything bad to say for once……….. And we know they don’t usually have anything good to say. So I guess that leaves them w/just nothing to say.

    Sure is quiet on here. Maybe they’re on the Viking’s blog this week????

  • Rocky70

    ” Sure is quiet on here. Maybe they’re on the Viking’s blog this week???? ”

    They never had a good argument even earlier in the season when the Pack were 2-2………… After thumping two opponents by a combined score of 57-3, at least they’re smart enough to know that any critical comments at this point would need substantial evidence to support their ‘doom & gloom’ point of view…….. IMO, their whole argument hinges on the Pack failing………..Thus, their silence………. “Super PackFans”, I doubt it.

    Positive ‘crowd noise’ should allow AR to audible in this game…….. He’s already stated that the noise in Minn. eliminated many audibles at the line ….. It should be reversed this Sunday with BF having the problem instead of AR…… I could see GB coming out again against the Vikes with a similar start on the O……. More running than passing…… It’ll set up the Vike D for play-action & ultimately expose the Vikes for their weak pass defense…….

    I still like both the Pack & the Vikes at 6-2 at the half way point……….

  • Rocky70

    Jake Allen signed off PS.

    ” The 6-4, 196-pound Allen has spent a year and a half on the practice squad and might have made the roster earlier had the Packers not been so deep at the receiver position. Allen started out fast in training camp, but never really challenged Swain for the No. 5 spot.

    Allen’s length is something the Packers can exploit on slant routes and around the goal-line, but he’ll have to prove he can get off the line of scrimmage against physical corners. Still, he offers the same kind of tall receiver the Packers will be lacking if tight end Jermichael Finley can’t play because of a knee injury. “

  • Michael Legat

    “I still like both the Pack & the Vikes at 6-2 at the half way point……….”

    So you confess that you like the Vikings!

    :)

  • Pack4life

    Vikings minus Winfield are far weaker than the Packers minus Finley. I’m Glad we have a LT with TJ Lang. Sit Clifton please have quick hook on Babre and should be fine on offense. I think the d will earn some holding calls this week. The Vikes had 3 straight line penalties vs Pitt. Matthews should be able to beat McKinnie but he will grab him.
    THe Vikes know they are a non BCS outfit without Favre so the will resort to any artifice or cheapshot to keep him upright still gave up 4 sacks to Steelers.

  • 25 Yrs Pack

    I just hope thatthe Green Bay “welcome back” isn’t going to be anything to outrageous. The guys deosn’t need any more motivation, neither does the queens D-Line who is already hunting after A-Rod as if he were the anti-christ.

  • 25 Yrs Pack

    As i mentioned with the refs, and others have mentioned, the queens shouldn’t be getting all the calls they got at home up here in GB. Then i thought for a second, after the refs took that bf touchdown off the bored for a phantom tripping call in the steelers game in the 4th quarter, which led to the fumble return right after, I sure hope the league doesn’t think it owes bf any more calls. He is roger notgoodell’s cash cow. I fell like rg’s dream is to have a bf Superbowl in Europe.

  • Pete H

    I criticized the game plan of Capers last time out vs the Vikes, but in all honesty, that is probably what I would want to do again. I don’t think you can send the hounds over and over…AP will kill us. They do have to find a way to get pressure on Favre with the base and some well timed blitzing. As long as these guys don’t shoot themselves in the foot they are every bit as talented as the Vikes…just in different spots. I mean, the Packers have them beat in the secondary as bad as they have us beat on the lines. Our WRs are far superior, but their RB is obviously so. QBs I’ll call a draw, just because of the experience factor. Although Brett has never experienced anything like what he will on Sunday…hostility at Lambeau. They aren’t overmatched. They just got outplayed last time

  • Rocky70

    ML

    I like the Vikes as much as I like……… constipation, zero balance in my checking account, a stick in the eye, and/or chest pains………..

    In reality, however, I’ve never really detested any NFL teams, unless they’re in the way of the Pack…….. The Vikes are 6-1 & in the way……….. If they were 1-6, this would be just another regular season game.

    How do you get the ‘smiley face’ to post?…. I’ve tried a number of ways but it won’t take for me……..

  • PackerPete

    If I recall correctly in the past when Grant had good games against the queens it was mostly on off tackle and outside runs where we exploited their perimeter defense.

    With Winfield out look for much of the same in our running game this week. We should be able to set the corner on their ends and plow outward against CB. Very little between the tackles and a lot off-tackle/outside with Lee’s blocking playing a huge role and our young aggressive OL getting downfield and cleaning up on LB and DB.

    That should allow AR to go hog wild in the passing game. Look for an offensive explosion by GB if the play calling doesnt get in the way. Hopefully home field will allow AR to audible out of MM plays frequently.

    This will be a real test for our D. Shutting down AP two consecutive games will be tough, lets hope the D from the past two weeks is real and not due to opponent only. I like Raji getting healthy and Matthews getting reps. Barnett needs to step up along with Hawk and continue their solid play.

    I cant wait to see Al Harris thump Rice a few times at the line and slow him down. BF should be good for 3 TO’s. Call him “The Baker” since he produces so many turnovers.

  • Jeff

    The Packers moved the ball well in Minnesota but lack of concentration turnovers hurt them , those type of turnovers will not happen Sunday, Rodgers just does not turn the ball over at home.

  • Jeff

    Let’s not forget the Packers had great chances in Minnesota but things got away like when Donald Lee dropped a sure TD in the end zone.
    Jared Allen had a monster game against us in the dome last year too but he did not even have a taclke at Lambeau. McCarthy must commit to the run , Grant has a great yard per carry average against the Vikings. The middle of the field that Favre picked apart 34 weeks ago will not be open with Bigby back. The Vikings may not have Berrian or Winfield and if they do not have winfield that already bad pass defense will be awful.
    Here are some facts,,
    The Vikings are 3-12 in their last 15 games in Green Bay and they have swpt the Packers only 7 times in the last 30 seasons.
    Mike McCarthy is 3-0 in Lambeau against the Vikings , Brad Childress has never won in Green Bay.
    Adrian Peterson is 0-2 in Lambeau.
    I feel Favre will turn the ball over in this game and Rodgers will not.
    The Viking defense has not been as good as people want to think , they gave up tons of points to the Ravens and 49ers , the Rams moved the ball on them all day but kept fumbling, even the Lions put some good points on them. They want to say this is a big test for us , we by far are the biggest test for the Vikings this year , they are playing their first tough division game of the year in a place that they do not do well on grass where they nnever do well.

  • TRIP

    Packers had a good chance at Minnesota? Did you watch the same game, Jeff? It wasn’t even close until Vikings started playing “drown out the clock”!!!

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Welcome back, TRIP. Your last post was right after the last MIN game wherein you said “run out the clock”, but other than that pretty much the same. You inadvertantly forgot something, however. That would be GO VIKES!

  • Rocky70

    Per Schein at FOX:

    ” The pressure is solely on Favre. He will get booed in the stadium where he used to be a star and a legend. I think he has no idea what is in store. And I think it is going to get ugly with the sight of Favre wearing the enemy’s colors and with Green Bay getting a chance to cut into Minnesota’s division lead. ”

    UGLY may be an understatement …………… Reading several blogs/forums & I get the distinct idea that PackFans at the game are going to be relentless in showing their displeasure for BF’s antics over the last 1-2 years………… The fence-sitters in the “BF Affair” seemed to have fallen on the Packer’s side of the fence ……… As BF said: “The fans need to get over it.”……………. It’ll happen…….. right after a Pack V in this game.

  • Rocky70

    This Schein guy from FOX must be smart:

    ” Aaron Kampman is back. His hand is in the dirt. Kampman is getting to the passer. Kampman was dropping back too often in the first game against the Vikes. Kampman will chase Favre all day long, something he didn’t do at all in the first matchup. ”

    ” Al Harris and Charles Woodson make up the single-best combination of cornerbacks in the NFL. Woodson had a pick against Cleveland. Woodson and Harris will have two combined picks against Favre on Sunday. “

  • Devil’s Advocate…

    At this point, I can’t even be sure B*tt F*ck didn’t make a deal w/the Jets owner to agree to the trade, if he’d agree to a release, if B*tt F*ck wanted it……. He got an early release, supposed bad arm even though he wasn’t listed on the injured report, then that gives him an opportunity to miss training camp. Hell, I didn’t see him get an operation. Could have been staged. Stranger things have happened….

  • TRIP

    Larry,

    Who knows what the hell you’re talking about. But simply, the Vikes beat our tail-ends like it was nothing. I don’t try to pretend that it didn’t happen. I want nothing more but to demolish the Brett Favre-led Vikings. And if we lose this game, I’ll probably be crushed for the rest of the season. We need this win because a tiebreaker might be very important week 17. And will NO and ATL in the same division and NYG, PHI, and DAL in the same division, we can assume that two NFC North teams are going to advance.

  • iccyfan

    I just stopped for a cup of coffee at a local convenience store; the owner is a Bear fan and he knows I’m a Packer. He read this on-line as a “mayor’s suggestion” for welcoming BF back to Lambeau. Announce that the #4 jersey will be retired prior to the Packer / Viking game and hold the ceremony in honor of Chuck Fusina!

    You’ve got to admit that’s funny…

    Note: Chuck Fusina was a Penn State All-American QB who played in the USFL and spent part of one year with the Packers after the USFL folded, wearing #4. He was 19 of 32 for 178 yards, with no TD’s and one INT!

  • roy jamison

    I see weather for Sunday’s game calls for rain/snow showers and a cool 45 degree high. Combine that with the start of time shift back one hour and it’ll be getting dark during that game. I prefer to think it’ll be darker for the Queens.

  • roy jamison

    Is there any way you can have the temperature freeze to guarantee ice sticking to the gray beard of number 4?

  • 25 Yrs Pack

    The queens absolutely dominated the first half against the Pack, there is no question there. Starting in the 3rd quater is when the Pack realized they were involved in a football game. If the Pack continue what they were doing in the late 3rd and 4th quater onto this game, I don’t see the queens having a chance to keep up with us, not to mention we have gotten better, I cant really see any major improvements the queens have made. You could make an argument they are getting worse with injuries and slowing run game. If the Pack come out like they did in the first half of last game, hide the women and childern, god doesn’t even l know what will happen in Green Bay. But if the Pack continue to play like they were playing, now improved, the playoffs will than have shifted from the dome to GB!

  • Sammy

    Many HARD CORE PACKER FANS only post after a loss because it is another way of venting and letting out frustration. Just because many do not post after a Pack win, does not mean we/they are Minnesota fans. Also, I think many of you are way too confident. We have not beat anyone good yet this year and while beating the crappy teams, we have look average if not subpar. Please win Pack so I do not have to post here and ask for TT/MM heads….again!

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    Sammy – who did the Vikings beat? Let’s see. The Browns, Lions, Rams and 49ers are four of the six wins. Only the Packers and Ravens are quality opponents. For the Packers only the Bears are a quality opponent in one less game. Pretty even if you ask me. If 3rd in the NFL on defense and 8th in offense is average, all I can ask is what color is the sky in your world?

  • Rocky70

    Sammy, you need to do a little more research to support your generalities.

    Some facts about the Qweenies:

    They are only two plays away from being 4-3 versus their 6-1 record.
    The only winning team they have beaten is the Pack.
    Their defense is ranked 17th in the NFL in yards/game…. (Pack – 3rd)
    Their offense is ranked 12th in the NFL in yards/game….. (Pack – 8th)

    Most would appreciate if you didn’t post here again…. You have nothing to offer……

  • Rocky70

    Where is the infamous packer_bob ?

    We need his insight on the Vikes, seriously…………….

  • jonnyfootballhero

    Sammy – Please continue to post here. All views are appreciated. I tend to lean toward the anti-TT/MM side myself, but many on this site have changed some of my views and have me looking at the team more objectively lately and I’m starting to see the improvement I’ve been waiting for. I try to stay away from the name calling and stat nit-picking and only chime in when I really want to. As far as I’m concerned, it’s perfectly fine to come on here after a loss and bitch about the game and what you don’t like about the management/coaching/playing of the team. Don’t let anyone try to tell you you’re not a “real” fan if you choose to do that. But it’s also great to come on after a win and be excited about how great the team was too…Hope to see more of your posts on this site, whichever side of the fence you reside…

  • http://www.packernet.com admin

    Sammy + jonnyfootballhero = Jon? What do you all think?

  • jonnyfootballhero

    no al, not the same

  • TRIP

    Does Jon still come around these parts?

  • http://www.packernet.com admin