Offensive team meeting just talk?

In a season when we have heard a lot of talk about getting better from head coach Mike McCarthy but little improvement on the field, one has to wonder if this big offensive team meeting held Monday will just be more of the same. It sounded like the “airing of grievances” but it’s too early for Festivus. Will a full-blown bitch session fix the inconsistency of the offense and all of sudden turn around the pass protection problem? I kind of doubt it. If it does, great, but it should have happened a long time ago and for that there would be no excuse. Did it take the players instead of the coaches to light a fire under this team. Wow! I think I’m going to a disco tonight, it must be 1976 again. I’m your boogie man.

To me it sounded like a lot of finger-pointing, at least from the few details that came out of it. How can that be good when at least half of the problem is the game plan and the play calling? The most disturbing thing I heard all year was on Monday when McCarthy was asked how the Bucs’ secondary shut down the Packers. Even after it was clear the Packers’ receivers could not get open against Tampa McCarthy said “if we played them again tomorrow we’d go right back after that secondary.” Just keep pounding the rock Mike, you might find water.

What was really funny was that one of the quotes was from a defensive player who said the meeting was “good” making it sound like all the problems on the team were on offense. It wasn’t the offense that cost the Packers the game last week, it was a two-week old quarterback who ripped up the Packers’ defense, especially late when the game was on the line. It was Al Harris eating crow after taunting the Bucs’ QB all game. It was Jarrett Bush doing what Jarrett Bush does – give up touchdowns. It was the Packers’ blitz getting to Josh Freeman but not getting him down. I wonder if the “airing of grievances” shouldn’t have been held on the other side of the ball. Or maybe both.

Either way, I think the Packers will fall to 4-5 this weekend and we’ll see where they go from there with the 49ers and Lions following the Cowboys. We saw what happened last year at this time so confidence is not high. Since I’m on a Seinfeld kick, it is time for the Packers to do the opposite. So far pretty much everything McCarthy has done has been wrong, so the opposite must be right (side note – watching the game – wish the Packers had a kicker like Robbie Gould).

It has been an interesting week since the “Travesty in Tampa.” With eight games to go and low expectations, I’m looking forward to the second half of the season. I would love to see a win over the Cowboys Sunday which could be a springboard to a great second half, however, that wasn’t the case last year when the Packers’ ripped the Colts in Lambeau then proceeded to go 2-7 the rest of the season. This year will be the opposite. A Festivus miracle!

  • JJ

    It looks like Thompson, at the end of this season, his fifth, will stll have a losing under-.500 record.

    He’s gotta go.

    If only Mac is fired, what coach in his right mind will want to work for Thompson, who will be perceived as on his way out?

    The only solution is to CLEAN HOUSE!

  • http://Orlando Mark

    JJ, I believe you’re right. But, to be fair, we shouldn’t judge the management until the end of the season. Things should change considerably in the next 8 games. If the players can improve despite being booed and enduring a rough second half schedule. That’s got to be taken into consideration. If not, we shouldn’t waste another day. Cowher is the best coach available.

  • Devil’s Advocate…

    Trying to get myself to watch the game from last week knowing the outcome and it’s hard. Yet a flag for excessive celebartion after the touchdown. Those three were pretty crazy all huddled up like that and saying a prayer or what have ya….. (at least they picked it up, probably hated do that but realized it could be pointed out as yet another ticky-tacky call on some show). Then comes what appears to be Tramon Williams getting his helmet ripped off on the punt return. No call….. surprise and I’m barely into the first quarter.

  • RayL

    TT and Tubby must go!!

  • RayL

    has anyone noticed Mike Singletary’s passion? He get’s on a player when they screw up and is in their face….that’s what the Pack Needs. Bring on Cower…..

    I predict Lovie SMoth is fired and they bring in SIngletary next year….

  • RayL

    I meant the Bears will fire Lovie Smith and bring in MS

  • packer_bob

    I read that scout’s take on the Pack and agree with him that we’re probably not that far away. The only problem is you could probably say that about 2/3 of the league. Almost every year somebody expected to be good fizzles (Tennessee this year) and somebody with poor expectations does well (Bungles, anyone?). So in theory, every time probably thinks they’re not that far away.

    The main concern I have is that the scout identified basically our entire O-line as a problem. How do fix that in one season?

  • jonnyfootballhero

    pb – I was interested in checking out your YouTube posts, but can’t find them… can you help a brother out?? Thanks,

    -jfh

  • Devil’s Advocate…

    Still working through the game….. 13:24 4th quarter, Packers 2nd/goal. The o-line line blocking is decent til Colledge suddenly breaks off from the guy he’s blocking, moves and looks to his left where there’s a big empty hole cause Clifton is fine but now his guy goes in and gets the sack. I’m just perplexed at what the hell he was doing?????? The sack before Babre and Sitton block the guard and the DE goes by the TE for a sack. I’ve seen Babre turn the DE lose before too. I didn’t think there were may blocking schemes where the tackles didn’t block the DE 99.9% of the time!!!!!! Apparently that’s not the case for us. Are the players stupid or the coaches??????? Seen alot of these stupid sacks this year……… It’s one thing to get beat, but it’s another to just not block guys.

    Grant gets taken down w/a shoestring tackle again.

  • Bob

    Thought just came to my mind, A president has 4 years to turn a whole country around and make it better, Why in the Heck should a GM have 5 years to make a football team good? Teddy has to go!

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Read through the thread again and there are some real positive steps we can do now to help our team
    Mark, I suggest you contact Cowher and see if he is ready to coach again. He did say when he quit he’d like to do that in the future.
    RayL, do you want to fire TT and “Tubby” now? Do you have replacements in mind? I gather you would like Cower as coach, or would you want him as GM? You too, should talk to him.
    MNFavre, please call or see TT in person and implore him to go get Moss from NE as I’m sure that would solve all our problems.
    PackersNYC, your job is a lot tougher because you have to contact Cowher, Holmgren, Shanny, and Chucky. I’m sure TT could use the help though because he doesn’t seem to know how to get in thouch with any of them.
    Wow, these are just from this thread. I think you guys have got something here – please follow up on your suggestions.
    Maybe before you act on your solutions you should contact Bob, he seems willing to help.
    I hope you all enjoy the game today, and that our team does not spoil it for you with a win.

  • RayL

    LarryTex – you can go on with the slobbering love affair with TT and MM if you choose…some of us do not wish to and we are realist….not looking at the team with TT colored glasses. The way, I look at it…if we do go on a downward spiral it will be better in the long run for the franchise…we get rid of TT and we get a better draft pick instead of finishing 9-7 or 8-8 and missing the playoffs and just being successful enough to keep TT around another year….it’s not worth the 2 extra wins. I would rather loose the rest of the games and have TT/MM leave on the next train a rollin….

  • Bob

    To be all honest, I have went back and forth with Ted Thompson, one minute I think He does something good for the team, next He makes you say to yourself, what the heck was He thinking? for MM I haver never liked him as a coach, He has never showing me any kind of leadership. I do wish that both would be gone, but I’m not willing to lose all the rest of the games in order for that to happen, Packers winning are first on my list. I love watching my Packers way to much to ever want them to lose for selffish reasons.

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    There you go! RayL and Bob, both with as honest a response as you can get. One is willing to go through another 3-4 years rebuilding with another organization in place, and one who hopes the current regime succeeds, albeit against his best judgement.
    A lot of different kinds of fans.

  • http://Orlando Mark

    Larry, sadly there’s nothing we can do from a GM standpoint this year. The die has been cast. I’m sure the young players will learn a lot. We can more easily see our areas of weakness. The harsh realities of actual competition will prove whether the direction were taking works or we have to change course. Before the season started I’d have been satisfied with 9-7. Mainly because we have an easy schedule. Now I’d take 8-8 or even 7-9 if I can see improvement on the field. If we don’t see any improvement it would be futile to keep the same management. They’ve had plenty of time, and 2007 is looking more like an anomaly than a trend.

  • Bob

    LarryTex you don’t know much about football do you? guessing your the type of guy that would never challenge authority even if they are taking advantage of you, why because your spineless, like I said in my other post, 5 years is a long time in the NFL to do a lot more stupid moves, than good moves for your team, as a Business owner, if I made that many bad decisions I wouldn’t have a business anymore. and by the way I was on Teddy’s side about the whole Favre saga, I’ve never said He has done everything wrong. and how do you figure 3-4 years of rebuliding? we have a good core of talent right now, we could use a couple good “free Agency” pick ups. we need discipline on this team, you telling me that MM gives us that?

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Wow, Boob, you ought to re-read my last post AND the two posts that led to it.
    One thing for sure, to take what I wrote last and come to the conclusion you did, its a damn good thing you’re in business for yourself.

  • Bob

    A very successful busines too! And wow Kindergarden name calling, must be your IQ?