Hi all from sunny Mesa, Az. Know what – it didn’t look that good from here either? Kicked their loving butts, but it sure wasn’t pretty. It seems like a penalty on every ST opportunity regardless of whether we’re kicking or receiving, kickoffs or punts. Unbelievable. I’ve had enough; McCarthy is neither a motivator nor technically qualified to be a NFL HC – a big mistake for TT and he had better correct it. If we make the playoffs it’ll be because of the effort of the individual team members and not the coaching staff. It might surprise you, but I lay it all on MM and not the assistants, because I have to feel that they are being overridden by the HC. Has to be a guess on my part but all three on the sidelines cannot be making the same mistakes. No way. Sad part is making the playoffs would save MMs job. For my money 9-7 w/o a playoff spot doesn’t make it with this schedule………..!

Kudos to Stafford and Johnson for giving it a go as hurt as they were. Thumbs down on our unspecial teams play. Golden turkey awards to A-Rod, DD, and 21. Woodson is the best damn football player on the team and maybe in the league.

I think Bush played a better game than you’re suggesting, guys. On two, at least, of those completions he was an inch away from an int or knockdown and he should have had an int on the one he dropped. Its a game of inches and he could have looked a lot better if he had reacted a split second sooner. I didn’t think he played that badly given the amount of playing time he has had. Same goes for Williams. I’m surprised in the down field lack of speed of the ST guys. Thought this would be an area of great improvement this year – obviously hasn’t happened.

With as questionable as some of TT’s moves (and non-moves) have been, he sure did hit the jackpot with C-Wood. I’m sure I wasn’t the only one that thought he was washed up when we signed him. But it seems like he just keeps getting better and better. And what the f**k is MM thinking, putting him back there on KO return? Seriously dude.

Question to the schedule-makers: why do we follow up a Thursday game with waiting until Monday night next week?

List of things I thought I would never see in my life:
1. Somebody confusing Bush for Woodson
2. Sorry, nothing else comes close to that one…

MM is not qualified to coach in the league. Is there a law that Havner and Finley cant be on the field on the same time? I am guessing that maybe he is saving things for Baltimore?

Capers deserves to be offered a head coaching job based on the success the Packers D has had this year. I hope someone in GB realizes the success of this team has more to do with Capers and his staff than it does with MM.

Zach, the problem with that stat is that he took over 2 expansion teams. The stint with Houston was guaranteed to flop. After the Panther and Jaguars succeeded early on, the league made sure to change the rules when Houston came into the league. No existing owner wants to see an expansion team win for years.

The Bears fans at work were talking Wednesday that they would rather have Capers than Lovie. If Bears fans can figure out that Capers is the best we have, I’m guessing there’s real football minds that can figure that out as well.

Harp on Bush all you want, we’ll see in the end who has egg on their face. All I’m saying is I saw something in both Bush and Williams I hadn’t seen before. And you’re right I give B credit for missing by inches because its aggressive, which I like, and it is a game of inches. They’ll even out in the long run. Yeah, you’re right about Woodson too, I was among them who thought he was washed up in Oakland. So, I’m giving the kid a chance. Capers is not HC material; has been there done that, situation here w/ our kids would be the same as he faced in HOU. Same thing ya’all (me too) are criticizing MM for, a detail guy who cannot manage the big overall scope of things. The HOU and NO experience are typical of the high draft history based on losing records over time. Thats the way the system is designed.

I’m happy things went well for our DBs, but let’s be honest about it. Rookie QB, injured, merely adequate O-line in front of him, only one real wideout on the team, best TE out early to a knee injury. I’m not going to get too effusive just yet, but somebody must be seeing something in Bush that we’re not. Here’s hopin’ the kid proves to be a late bloomer.

I was also dubious about Charles coming – dead-ass, roasting on a spit wrong on that count, so take that as you like it with regard to my DB knowledge. Doubs remain about the coaching, O-line and ST. After reading Poppinga’s comments about his ST penalty, I want to stuff a sock down his throat.

But no matter what else we have to say, here we are 7-4. I don’t think we’re elite yet, but you’d better bring your “A” game if you’re coming to Lambeau Field, and that’s a step in the right direction. Can’t wait for MNF.

On MM, remember he has a long term contract and you’ll be seeing him for another 2 or 3 years minimum no matter if you like him or not. Also remember Tom Coughlin was an idiot when the Giants couldn’t win, a genius when Eli had a wideout to throw to and they won the Super Bowl, and now he’s gravitating back toward being a moron again.
But my real question is why Mike Golic is such an anti Packer guy? Didn’t pick them to get in playoffs and a couple of days ago picked the Lions to win. I’m thinking only Frank Caliendo and Golic made that pick.

LarryTex Says: “I think Bush played a better game than you’re suggesting, guys. On two, at least, of those completions he was an inch away from an int or knockdown and he should have had an int on the one he dropped. Its a game of inches and he could have looked a lot better if he had reacted a split second sooner. I didn’t think he played that badly”

I submit that you must have been watching a different game than I. I saw an easy interception dropped that any competent NFL defensive back would have had, followed immediately by a lucky missed FG (Jason Hanson usually gets those). I saw him break under on a pass that easily went over him for a first down. I wasn’t taking notes, but I’m pretty certain his only successful “pass defended” was his dropped interception.

We were playing the Lions, a team that didn’t win a game last year, features a rookie QB and had to get lucky to beat the Cleveland Browns the week prior. If Jarrett Bush can’t make plays against the Lions, what’s he gonna look like versus better teams (that’d be everybody else remaining on our schedule)? I’m hoping the newly acquired free agent CB will be ready in time for the Monday nighter…

All I’m saying is you’re selling him short because he has a lack of experience at game speed. As he moves up the depth chart he will improve as he is on the cusp. I watched the same game you did and liked what I saw as far as coverage was concerned. Like I said “inches” and Bush could have had three INTs. Hey, I’ve seen Woodson and Harris get beat too, it happens – its called football. Do you like Bigby better, against MIN he took two of our DBs out on one play and the guy got a 40 yd gain?

I think we can get a wild card because, those eastern teams are gonna beat themselves up and the Giants aren’t that good. Philly might get the wild card but they really aren’t that consistent either. Not that Dallas is! The Giants needed that game in Denver.

Good point, roy, gee weren’t the NYG a SB team a couple of years ago? Is that what the play, coach, win, FA, at any cost, now, crowd want us to do? Like Bearse and MIN? I’d rather have a winning team year after year with a chance to go all the way, than a go for broke one year run (that you just might not make it with) and have nothing two years later. Thats just what this franchise did leading up to the 70s and 80s debacle.

Roy Jamison, Where did mike golic pick the lions to win? If it was on TV then it was all for show or just to be the devils advocate. On ESPN’s expert picks he picked the packers to win.

As for Talent going forward:

New Kicker
New Punter
DB Depth
One New Safety plus Depth
Two to Three New O-lineman plus depth
RB Depth

Let’s hope TT is focused on this going forward.

Has anybody seen Brett Favre lately? Is he still playing?

All washed up, just ask the Bears!

I was actually trying to root for a Bears victory (hard as that is) but the inevitability of the situation was obvious by the 2nd quarter. I’m very happy with Rodgers, and our long term prospects are better with him than Favre, unless Favre is still playing when he’s 50.

But Favre is simply imcomparable. He’s got a hell of a cast around him, but for a guy to be 40 years old and play the way he is, is completely unprecedented. Obviously if we are fortunate enough to face them again, I’ll be rooting for the Pack. But barring that, it wouldn’t bother me if the Vikes won the whole shebang.

Discuss.

I’m feeling good about facing the Ravens. They played at home against a beat up Steelers team that was using their 3rd string QB. Roethlisberger (emergency QB and Batch was out). Also, Polamalu was out.

Even the Bears beat the Steelers when they were healthier than that.

Unless we turn the ball over and have ST breakdowns, we should beat the Ravens in Lambeau.
Also, feeling good about playing the Bears. They are not a good team these days.
Seahags give us three very winnable game.
Cardinals likely having nothing to play for during the last game (and very likely would face the Packers in the first playoff game, so they will rest guys and play vanilla football).

Looking like we should finish 11-5. Injuries could change things, but considering we’re a lot healthier than other teams, I like our chances. Once the playoffs start, anything can happen.

Sorry there p_b, I don’t share your sentiment about the Viqueens taking it all… I’d rather see the Saints go all the way if it’s not my beloved franchise… I don’t think the Queens and the Saints see each other during the regular season so it would be awfully fun to see them butt heads in the play-offs if we don’t get another crack at them. I’m think the SB will see the Saints and the Colts personally cause the Queens, Cowgirls and Cards don’t have what the Saints have and that’s character… Well, the Cards have character but not enough talent to beat the likes of the Queens or Saints IMHO. So if the Packers aren’t there in the end I’d rather a team from another NFC division were the lucky recipient of the SB.

For me, this week will be litmus test for the Saints playing the Pats and again when they play the Cowboys. For the Viqueens it will be when they play the Bengals. I don’t think AZ is in the same league as the Queens or the Saints even with their record of 7-4. Then again, I don’t think we’re in the same league with the top two teams either but once again, I’d rather see the Saints then the Queens if it can’t be the Packers.

There is no scenario where I could ever see myself cheering for the Vikings to win the Superbowl – NONE!!!

The Vikings oughta be flying high right now. But, I get the sneaky suspicion that they will have a tough time in the playoffs. I don’t know if anyone is as good as the Saints have been. Some times teams peak too early and have nothing left in game 17.

Whatever team get’s on a hot streak in the play offs is the one that goes to the super bowl. Everyone’s record resets when the play off start I don’t care about who is seeded where. The Giants and Cardinals didn’t have first round bye’s.

I’m not to impressed with our Packers this year. However we have been playing better and the pass rush is maturing in this new defense (usually is the last thing to mature) and the the offensive line seems to be getting better with better running game. Our special teams still suck but it’s all about who get’s on a hot streak in the play off.

I don’t think the team with the best regular season record has won the SB in the last 5 or 6 years.

Oh and I do like our chances against the Ravens this week.

JeffN – I totally agree on your “special teams suck” comment. We can’t punt, kick field goals, cover kick-offs, block for the punter, cover punts. For you stat lovers, our defense has given up the least yards, that’s #1 in the NFL in yards against average. BUT, we are 12th in points allowed, I think that says something about FIELD POSITION, which is determined by special teams, uh, and penalties – the other problem.