My french is still bad……………… Those damn refs once again……………. I haven’t any idea anymore of what they will and won’t call????????? AR got blasted right in the knees once again on the 2 point conversion and there was no excuse for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Read in one of the articles, the refs’ statement about the TD taken away. Says that if a player goes to the ground in the process of catching the ball, he has to keep control. That’s all fine and dandy, but he wasn’t going to the ground to make the catch, he was running along til he got tackled and stripped. He had control for two steps…………. TD!!!!!! Even w/a replay, the stupid fuckers still got it wrong!!!!!!! Anyway, the schedule is set up perfect to practice for what they’re going to be doing, going on the road for the playoffs. Perfect opportunity for them to get some confidence built up playing away games. Just what they need!!! Crosby will get better or worse, but I wouldn’t get too gung-ho to get rid of him. May turn it around some week w/a big kick….. gets that confidence back and away he goes (kinda like the Pack after Dallas). Lastly, alot of the passes or penalties that have came against us, have been done so with a pretty well covered receiver. They needed some perfect back shoulders this week, PI’s last week and the 49′s even needed well thrown balls to keep from beaning the Packers in the back of their heads. They get things timed out just right and get those heads around a little better, some more picks could be in the works……… And that’s sure better than getting passes completed to wide-open WRs. One more lastly, WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE WOODSON GET THOSE TWO OTHER PICS THAT HE HAD A SHOT AT!!!!!!!

The O is very funny this year. Early in the year we couldn’t get started early needing to score points in the second half…lately we’ve been up early and have squandered leads in the second half…not a complete game in the mix…Does anyone else think a little quicker tempo might help. It seems like forever for the Packers snap the ball. All this reading defenses is fine but how about surprising the defense once in a while with some mid game no-huddle.

Maybe that will get the wide-outs in the game???

C’mon, p_b, given the instant gratification required or demanded on this site, generally, Cutler is a tremendous bust. You just don’t want to rile him up! Heh, heh.

And LT, I disagree about “instant gratification.” My argument about MM and TT showing some results this season was predicated on the amount of time they already had in crafting this team. I would never say 9-7 or out if this was their first year, baring some kind of clear Marty Morwinweg scenario where the HC is clearly not ready for the job. If I were a Bears fan, I wouldn’t have expected that much this season without the OL moves panning out and the defense remaining great, neither of which has happened.

Having said all that, the five game winning streak is surely a job saver for MM. I’m still not of the opinion that he is a great coach, but making the playoffs and 10 wins (almost assured at this point) clearly merits him keeping his job.

I don’t think calling for a winning season at this point qualifies as anything like “instant gratification”. That was my standard at the beginning of the year. 9-7 if you want me to believe the current leadership is making progress with this team.

Yes, I now believe this team is closer to 13-3 than it is to 6-10. I want to see what Ted and Mike have in store for us.

I still have a considerable problem with the fact that after all this time, we’re still counting on three Sherman era O-linemen to get it done.

I saw Aaron Rouse has imploded Jarret Bush is better than he is. We need to win at Pittsburgh. If Bruce Gradkowski and rookie Wrs can beat them… Go Pack

It was great the Pack won but it felt like I was watching the Tampa Bay game all over again. They started off with a huge play then steadily declined into looking like a team searching for an idea. The play calling on offense seemed different than the last 4 weeks but the fact that we won on the road in the division not playing near as well as we are capable of is a GREAT sign this team is getting better.

Looks like the fair weather fan is Rocky. We lose to the Bucs and you cry for 5 weeks. It was a nice break from your attempted sarcasm. Quit pointing your finger at others and take a look at your own pathetic self. You were gone for so long as you could not handle the heat. Now the Pack is back and so are you…fair weathered you are, go cheer for the Vikings, you fit the profile. GO PACK!

Rocky, everyone predicted you’d come back if the Pack started winning. And, just in time for the Christmas season too. Ho, ho, ho. Is there to be a moratorium on vicious personal attacks for the holidays? After all the Pack is doing great and a time of good will and good cheer.

The way I see it the NFL North will have a QB controversy for the next 10 years. Arod, Stafford, and Cutler will be compared and debated constantly as to who is the best. Stafford has proven that he might be the next Bobby Layne given his toughness, and Cutler has already been compared to Favre re, gunslinger, carelessness, and cannon arm. I’ll go with our guy, who reminds me a little like a guy we had here about forty years ago who was famous for that 3rd and 2 bomb. That guy had a good awareness about what to do with the ball in dire straights and didn’t throw many INTs either. The game has sure changed over the years and God help us if the cap is ever removed. The thing that surprises me is that we have never had a Sims, Payton, Sanders, or even Peterson. Maybe Green is the best we ever had ’cause Anderson didn’t play long enough and Brockington was just a pile driver tackle to tackle.
I’d sure like to see an “outside” guy come in here, or a sprinter before I go to Packer Heaven.
Regarding Chillar and Collins, you’re about to see why TT has been sitting on that stash for so long. I think its a bit much for a backup LB, but maybe TT, again, has some unknown insite on the cap situation. We can speculate all we want but only the Troika is in the know.

Ah, Mark, you’re so right. Hindsight, what a beautiful view. Re Moss, or lack thereof!
Trey, Merrill, and the other guy on ESPN really blasted him yesterday and gave me another reason to appreciate TT.
They showed clips of Moss not finishing routes, taking plays off when his number is not called (ie, Welker), and emphasizing his only real value as the vertical route. Not a good fit for West Coast at all, even with all that speed.
Again, in hindsight it was never about the #2, #3, or #4, it was about the impact of how his $$ would affect the cap and how they would have taken the space of at least two or maybe three of the Fab(5).
Add in the feeding of BF’s ego, he doesn’t fight for the ball except in the end zone, and “how many rings does he have?”. Kudos to Ted one more time. Also included was a shot of Brady having a little “talk” with him on the sideline. Priceless.

Rocky said – “Jay (MH) no longer posts because his dream of a losing season & MM/TT’s firing no longer exist ……………. More to come sometime soon.”

Wow Rocky, still calling me out and still calling me MH. You also said this – “Just because I didn’t post for awhile doesn’t mean I didn’t stop in to read……………..”

Well, I guess you missed and did not read this post of mine in Al’s blog “Packers Make A Statement” -

Jay Says:
December 8th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

I guess it is time for me to eat some crow. This is what I posted on November 8th in Al’s “Packers-Bucs Game Blog” following the Packers 38-28 loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers:

“I will say it now – THE 2009 SEASON IS OVER FOR THE GREEN BAY PACKERS. With the Cowboys up next Sunday and the Packers sitting at 4-4, it looks pretty bleak for the Packers to have any chance at the Playoffs. I have not been real high on this team this year, but at least I had them at 5-3 after today and in the mix for a chance at the playoffs. I knew that today’s game would be no gimme as I said in earlier posts and blogs, but after today, I truly believe that this team is worse than last year’s 6-10 squad … Overall, I am surprised and excited that the Packers are in the position that they are in. This team has improved drastically since the Tampa Bay loss and they have much improvement to make. I will say that MM and TT have gotten in gear and now have the Packers poised for the playoffs. Let’s see where they can take Packers with 4 games remaining.”

Come on Rocky, if you claim to read everything on Packernet, how did you miss this post of mine. Anyway, good to see you posting again. I am glad that you are back and this will be fun the rest of the way and let’s see what the Packers can do in the playoffs. I will also say that I still do not believe that MM and TT are the ones who can get the Packers back to their rightful place as Champions and Super Bowl winners, but will we see where they can take this team this year.

Anyway, good to have you back Rocky!

Jay

Again…………

” There are at least a couple hundred places on the web that deal with opinions about the NFL and/or Packer football ……….. ”

I don’t have to be here…….. This is my decision …….. My decisions aren’t based on your needs or interpretation of anything …………… I actually did read your post on Nov 8th ……… Sorry, but I wasn’t impressed. …….. Recantation is just a crutch ……….. It’s like kicking your dog & then petting him later like petting will negate the kick ……….. It doesn’t.

FYI, I’m not back from anything……….. I look for ‘football insight’ ……….. I get that from reading, not posting……… Ummmm…… name-calling……. kinda unprofessional on your part, wouldn’t you say?

Rocky

Enough with the ……’s

It’s like reading a text message from a 14 year old girl.

The Packers must be playing well enough..we’re fighting amongst ourselves over what was said 5 games ago. The Steeler game should be interesting given its a 3-4 defense, the foundation of ours. Anyone know if Troy Palamalu? is playing?

I’m wondering who you match up Woodson with..Ward is Bens favorite receiver and CW may have the best chance for picks there.

I like the Chillar signing a lot…he’s the best in coverage and easily the best backer not to start…I see someone falling out next year from the following..Hawk, Popinga, Bishop…I’m betting Hawk is gone. We have at least 7 picks next year and CB’s, OL and RB aren’t going to be all of them. We sure can pick some LB’s

Stomps

Nice 1st post……….. Know anything about the Pack or even football in general ?…… It’s a requirement on this site ……………. more or less.

Otherwise, welcome aboard …………………..

iccyfan

This is actually only the 3rd day I’ve posted in weeks (7 posts)………. I’ll disappear as quickly as I reappear in all likelihood …………. I’m a fan of the Packers, not a fan of the ‘fan’. ………… Most fans are woefully deficient when it comes to talking about football ………… Most fans respond to what they’ve read written by the media without a single independent thought …………… Most fans respond based on emotion rather than using their logic & brainpower ………… Don’t blame me ………. I haven’t caused this cesspool of fandom.

BTW, didn’t you quit here once because of PB ? ………. You had some pretty revealing ‘rhetoric’ during that whole episode if I remember correctly.

Stomps

I stand corrected………. I actually did find some very inciteful posts from you from a couple a game blogs a few weeks back…………. Here’s one ………………

‘ AL,
I just want you to non-sarcasticly say we were right… TT & MM HAVE TO GO!!!!!! ‘

How right do you feel now ? ……………. I’ll give you a chance to update your opinion ………… Have at it, genius.

Rocky………………………………………………………..

Are you always this much of a troll……………………………………………………………..

Thanks………………………………………………………………………….

Stomps ……. No updated opinion? ………….. How about just another quick question.

Per stomps:

‘ I drive 9 hours (each way) to Green Bay 2 to 3 times a year to watch Packers football. ‘

Nine hours……….. One way……… That calculates to about a 500 mile trip ………. This means you don’t come from due north (unless you’re one of dem Canadians) …….. You don’t come from due east because there’s a huge lake in the way ………… that leaves only due south & due east (more or less) ………….. I’m very familiar with any route going into GB coming from the east or south ………… Since you are obviously from out of state, which route do you use once you enter Wisconsin ? (Too late to look at a map now)

Driving a 1000 miles to watch a Packer game ………… One day trip?……. Two days? ………….. Just curious …………….. I call BS on your ID & anything you have to post ………… Go to a Vikings blog, clown.

Larry Tex Please explain the NE Patriots & Indianapolis Colts.

Rocky70,

I’ve had to shake my head at a lot of the haters and cynics over the past couple of years as well.

But let there be no doubt – you are as big a douchebag as Jon, if not bigger. You are a much bigger embarrassment than all of the anti-TT/MM folks on this board combined. I’d really rather you weren’t a Packer fan. Please disappear again.

I am very critical of some of TTs moves. He is the single biggest reason we will finish behind the Vikes 2 years running. But he got religion this last draft. Raji and especially Matthews are future superstars. So while the Vikes have a more balanced team. TT pulled it out of the fire this past draft.
Tex its not instant gratification to want a legitimate offensive line. Cliffy & Tausch clearly at the end Only lineman under TT that has developed is Sitton. Until that situation is fixed the Pack will be looking up to the Vikes.

Well, Pack4, I cant explain them, but they’ve been pretty damned good and played in weak conferences the last 10 years. They’re very comparable, both 42-38 ’98thru’02 but NE had a SB win. Colts 75-21 last 6 years and NE even better, but they each only won 1 SB in that period. I guess you could call them dynasties if you want, but my point was the SB wins. Even with those records they didnt have the luck to win as many as their record would indicate they should have. Have not looked it up, but I dont know if either of their lifetime records are any better than ours.
In any case, they’ve both had pretty good QBs the last 6 years and Colts have had very good RBs. We’ve got a QB that matches Manning’s first couple of years as a starter so we’ll see. I’d say they both have had pretty good HCs too.