Packers-Steelers Game Blog

3:22 PM:  Rough start for the good guys. Our old buddy Jarrett Bush is back. 7-0 Steelers. Now a penalty on the kick return. This is going to be a long day I fear.

3:27 PM: Why throw deep on third-and-one when your quarterback isn’t even sure what stadium he is in after a helmet-to-helmet shot. What a deep hole the Packers are in already.

3:31 PM: Packers stop the Steelers after one first down. Do you think they might try to run the ball a little now? Rodgers is getting killed.

3:36 PM: Holy cow! 83-yard touchdown pass to Jennings! I thought for sure he would drop it. We are tied at seven and now the Steelers know we can score on them. Come on defense now. Somebody make a play. I forgot to mention our shitty special teams. Better not allow a long kick return now.

3:46 PM: Steelers look like a team trying to break a 5-game losing streak. The Packers look like a team that wants to get back on the plane. It’s OK. We’ll be in an angry mood when Seattle comes to town next week. With Dallas winning last night 10 might not be enough.

3:59 PM: Big Play Clay makes another one! Packers ball pending review. It should go our way, but stranger things have happened.

4:03 PM:  The Packers totally got fucked there. The officiating in the NFL this year has never been worse. I don’ t even care anymore about this game. You can’t beat a fixed game. After what happened in the NBA it is hard argue the NFL games aren’t fixed too.

4:06 PM: The Packers’ offense is a joke. The worst play-calling of the year.

4:11 PM: Worst play-calling of the year!!!!!!

4:12 PM: The Packers now damn well that Crosby can’t hit from the right hash mark so what do they do on third down? Run to the right hash mark. McCarthy better not get to comfortable in his seat. This is is by the worst game of McCarthy’s career. The Packers have no chance to win this game unless Joe Philbin takes over the play calling. McCarthy is too emotional in his home town. Not thinking straight.

4:22 PM: All of a sudden Donald Driver can’t catch. WTF?

4;25 PM: The Packers are clearly a year away from being a contender. It would be nice to make the playoffs this year to get some experience, but until there is a complete makeover of the special teams from the coach to the kickers the Packers won’t be championship caliber. Lets focus on the Seahawks next week and go from there.

4:38 PM: Rodgers won’t be denied. Amazing how he can pick himself off the turf like that, deal with his receivers inability to catch, and run one in for a TD. I have 4-4 so I’m sorry, but we know the Steelers will score before halftime. No way I get that lucky.

4:45 PM: What did I tell you? Right down the field on us. No resistance at all. 21-14 Steelers.

5:30 PM: Pretty much what we expected today. We all had this as a loss when the schedule came out. No biggy. Regroup, beat Seattle and Arizona and let the chips fall where they may. I’m cool.

5:59 PM: The Steelers have definitely figured out the Packers’ defense. I hope it isn’t a blueprint for the Seahawks and Cardinals.

6:00 PM: Capers is being too cute tonight. It ain’t working.

6:16 PM: Bush again! He must be cut this week! Packers put up a good fight. I am actually encouraged by the second half performance. We may lose the game, but we didn’t lose momentum I don’t think.

6:19 PM: Nobody missed against us.

6:31 PM: Can the defense make the play? One time baby!

6:48 PM: Oh well. We gave it a great effort. The defense choked. Jenkins makes the sack and the game is over. 9-5 is not bad. Better get to 11-5.

  • Dan

    All the Packers need to do is beat Seattle and this game doesn’t mean much. Beat Seattle (a bad team that only beat the Rams on the road) and the Packers are in the playoffs. Rest up for the game against the Cardinals (may very well play them the first week in the playoffs).

    Get to the playoffs and anything is possible. Just look at the Giants from a few years ago and the Cardinals last year.

  • justawake

    LarryTex-
    Your defense of Jarret Bush is indefensible. A “true” Packer fan would want the greatest liability on this team gone. His negative plays far outweigh his positive by about 20 to one and if you haven’t noticed that yet than you definitely are not a true Packer fan.
    I am excited about how good the Packers look right now, but without a few obvious adjustments this team needs to make, we will not go far in the playoffs or is that okay by you since you seem content with a close loss.
    We have an opportunity here. Let’s seize it. I hate the whole “We’ll get ‘em next year” attitude before this season is even over.

  • ChrisAZ

    Well I have to say for the most part it was a well played game. But my god who the F*** is Josh Bell??? C”MON coach MM. It’s the final moments of the game and we have a absolute nobody playing on the field. And how about that Jarrett Bush and Mason Crosby. I’m telling you that a 9 point lead instead of a 6 point lead would have been really nice. Too bad our kicker cant even hit a 34 yarder and our corner has no idea how to defend a pass at all. The offense starting looking good during the 2nd half and our defense was pretty solid despite more than enough blown coverages by Bush.

  • iccyfan

    Sammy – I didn’t put forth any opinions for LarryTex to disagree with! I called him a troll because he was baiting other fans in this thread, much like Jon and other legendary trolls used to do last season. Here are a few examples and I’ve only read the final 1/4 of this thread – there are probably more:

    LarryTex Says: 7:30 pm
    “TD, 2 MIN, lets cover and ice it! Then you weak nellies go to bed!!!”
    LarryTex Says: 7:32 pm
    “Wow, what coverage by Bush.”
    LarryTex Says:7:34 pm
    “Damn penalty on Woodson, why aren’t you calling for his head?”
    LarryTex Says: 7:36 pm
    “Poppinga sack, another one you guys like to trash. I’ll bet you cant wait for another Bush mistake in coverage……….!”
    LarryTex Says: 7:43 pm
    “Dont you dare blame that one on Bush…”

    Trolls are individuals who go onto message boards and throw out rhetoric for no reason other than to incite other participants. LarryTex is a troll and a hypocrite…

  • Mel e Mel

    Mason Crosby cost this team a game no need to attempt any FGs the rest of the year.

  • Cody

    After a chance to cool down, and I am perfectly cool right now, I have decided that despite our defense having a rough night, we were 2 feet wide right of a win.
    that said…
    please replace mason crosby.

  • Mel e Mel

    Too late to replace him no quality out there. Just dont attempt any more FGs only xps .
    Can we get a firing squad for Slocum?

  • Mel e Mel

    Exhibit A very little pash rush Final drive vs Pitt.
    Exhibit B Peppers tearing vikes a new one tonight

    SIGN PEPPERS ALREADY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • AATP

    Well, I was upset to say the least, to have a win plucked from us with no time on the clock. BUT!!! They played hard and didn’t quit. I believe the that Bell guy was in there because they were running a prevent defense with no LB’s and all DB’s. So they had to dip as deep in the CB pool as they could. Bell is a special teams player and I’ll tell you – that throw was one of those once in a lifetime kinda throws – no time, fading with only the toes on the line, catch to win the game kinda throws. So am I content? No. But I am very optimistic that they were down, came back and took the lead and kept fighting. The Steelers were the better team today – we’ve had a nice run of 5 in a row – we’re NOT the Saints or Minnesota or Indy but 5 in a row is nice streak. We lost to the defending champs by one measly point and it took just a small streak of luck to pull that out but they did. So I’m not as pissed as I probably should be – I DO think that missed field goal hurt us. I was telling a friend that was watching the game with me that the missed field goal would come back to haunt us and I was unfortunately right. Three more would have put us ahead by 9 (as I think someone else already noted in here).

    So I’m just happy to still be talking play-offs considering what we were talking just five short weeks ago. We’re not a SuperBowl team by any means but we are a play-off caliber team and just think of the possibilities next year when we shore up a few remaining holes… kicker being the first hole to plug and then special team coach. We have franchise QB and a strong set of receivers and defensive players – just a couple more key players away from 13 season wins or more IMHO.

  • Pete H

    Is there still somebody out there who is come here and defend Bush again?

  • http://Orlando Mark

    Mel, no rush because we went with 3 tired guys who were absent once their QB broke what little contain there was.
    Which is why, AATP, this was hardly that lucky. Roethlisberger had time to wait and reset for another good matchup if he wanted.

  • http://Orlando Mark

    Also, anyone see what a nice job Sutton did for Carolina at RB. We should have kept him.

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Iccy, perhaps you hit the nail on the head – not sure. I’ve done some real trolling in my fishing days, and do bait the malcontents. Tell you why. We’ve got young guys out there still learning, and while Bush has four yrs in the league he didn’t play in the nickle until this year. Same with Bell, two years and I don’t remember him much in the dime (or Bush in nickle) until Harris got taken out. They have to play to learn and I give them the time.
    The bait in this senario is this: Driver two serious drops, Finley two serious drops, Jones and Jackson, drops; what, at least seven total? And you hang the loss on Bush, Bell, and Crosby? Missed coverage by Hawk, Chillar, and Barnett and you harp on Bush and Bell. A terrible miss, again, by Crosby, but that miss and the TDs on Bush and Bell didn’t lose the game even though they absolutly contributed.
    Frustration is one thing, not supporting the team is another. You each get to decide what kind of GBP fans you are, I wouldn’t even try. I’ve got my own opinions and its based on how you (all of you) react and comment when things go awry.
    I’ll just say this; I’ve seen a lot worse and probably will again, but it won’t get me throwing rocks at my team no matter how much I may dislike the way MM makes certain calls. Brings up another typical response, fire MM after the O scores 36 pts, but Capers walks on water after his D allowed 37. There are 11 guys on that field going in each direction and all 22 plus gave it all they had today.

  • AATP

    Mark, the three rushers were rushing but mostly keeping contain so that Rothlisberger didn’t take off on his own – they didn’t want to open the field up since there was no one in behind them (the three DLs). Everyone was in the end-zone defending the receivers. If you saw the catch, from the sideline angle, everyone was stacked on the other side of the field and the lone receiver was to the right side of the field which Pat Bell had to cover. The expectation of that defensive play was to keep all receivers covered, which they really were. It took a precision pass to keep from ending up in Pat Bells hands. That ball was placed exactly in the smallest window it needed to be placed in. The defensive scheme was not to rush the QB but to keep the contain so he didn’t take off on his own with no one in the second level, when all receivers were covered in the endzone. That play was a one in a thousand – the only other play that looked similar to that was that BF play in the back of the endzone to win that game. So when I say lucky, I mean it was a very low percentage throw put in the only place he could put it and his guy made a play on the ball. Inches left or inches right and that play pass was not going to be a score. It’s a game of inches right? They got their inches on that play…

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Hey, Mel e Mel, I think the cap kitty is now somewhere between 12 and 14 Mil. Shall we give it all to Peppers tomorrow or wait until the end of the season? Yeah, iccy, thats bait.

  • AATP

    I think in the last thread I put the lines up there that the Steelers were favored by 1 – well, they kept their promise. I also think I put up there that the first team to score would win the game – damn I should be in Vegas!!! I like the way they played to win right to the end – they gave it all and the scheme was right but the Roth is a hell of QB and he displayed that tonight. We battled even when we were down pretty good and got back in the game and even took the lead – they did well. Some things need to be fixed, but I think they’ll have to worry about that for when they come up against an elite QB again. Right now, it’s scheme to beat the next team – the Seahawks – a game we should win… Then on to AZ – another game, if it matters, that we have the ability to win. I still like our odds to get into the play-offs, just not sure what’s left after we get there… I’m really excited to see what happens though.

  • AATP

    I didn’t realize that the Panthers put a hurtin on the Viqueens – I like it… !!! I bet everyone wants a copy of that tape… :)

  • http://Orlando Mark

    AATP, I’d like another look at that on replay. I think our regular rush was getting to him. Also unless I’m wrong the announcer said if we let the man catch the ball at the 3 time would have run out with just 6 seconds on the clock. They ran another incomplete pass with Roethlisberger running around for what seemed like forever and the last play started with 3 seconds. I don’t see how that’s possible. I’d just like another look.

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Some more bait; Woodson has three penalties, we had five that resulted in PIT first downs. And lastly, Chillar had one that negated a BUSH INT. I know, I know, its MM and TTs fault.

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Not only that AATP, but Peterson got only 35 and BF 0 TD and an INT. Next they have CIN who might be angry after today.

  • Cody

    umm.. larrytex.. the vikes already played the bengals.. they play chicago next monday night…

  • jonnyfootballhero

    LT, I think the reason why a lot of people are so down on Bush and not the others who made bad plays today, is that the others have made great plays in the past, and don’t usually give up the big play to the other team, while Bush continually does not make the play and often gives up the big play to the other team. Crosby just seems to be on the decline. I wonder if a change of scenery would do that guy some good. Wouldn’t help the Packers in the short term however.
    It was a jagged pill to swallow today. I really thought the D would step up in the last 2 minutes, but the Steelers made the plays they had to make. I really wish the Packers would have had a good running game today, but that didn’t seem to be the plan. Is there anything good to take away from this game? I’m hoping that the team will refocus and fix the problems for the remainder of the year. It was nice to see the Vikes lose. I agree that they are beatable by anyone. However, I still think they’d beat the Pack if they meet up in the playoffs, but the Pack would make it a much closer game than they did during the regular season.
    I’m pretty disapointed in the loss today. The Defense seemed out of sync for much of the game, and the Offense had a lot of drops and not a great running game. Two very winnable games left, however the Cardinals make me nervous. If Warner can sit comfortably in the pocket, he should be able to pick the D apart the same as Rothlisberger did.
    I really hope that Packers make the playoffs. They’ve come a long way since the Tampa loss. Go Pack Go!! Happy Holidays to all!

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Oops, went from 15 to 14 rather than 15 to 16, you are so right Cody. Was careless.
    Anyway, all I know for sure is that we had a six point lead with 2:06 to go and couldn’t keep PIT out of the end zone, and thats all that counts. Point is, plenty of blame to share if you’re into that.
    I don’t know if you’re aware if AL, but justawake and Pete H took Bush out on Green Bay last week and threw him out of the boat. Whereupon Bush walked to shore and j said to P, “look, the S.O.B. can’t even swim”.
    I’ll believe the newbies can’t make it when they’re cut.

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Very valid point, jfbh. But the detractors have been on Hawk since he got here, and Finley and Bigby last year. They seem to have turned it around and are contributing. I don’t defend or ignore Bush mistakes, but rather give him a chance other than on the Specials. As to the Fab(5) they’ve been dropping balls, early, for several games now. I did point to the “inches” factor regarding Bush a couple of games ago but the game today was won by “inches”.
    You’re also right regarding the season – Happy Holidays to all!

  • iccyfan

    LarryTroll Says: “We’ve got young guys out there still learning, and while Bush has four yrs in the league he didn’t play in the nickle until this year. Same with Bell, two years and I don’t remember him much in the dime (or Bush in nickle) until Harris got taken out. They have to play to learn and I give them the time.”

    As has been quite common recently, I find myself wondering what the hell you’re talking about. Bush won the nickel corner job in Training Camp 2007 but played himself out of it in short order when the season opened. The reason you didn’t see much of Josh Bell is because he wasn’t a Green Bay Packer until after the Al Harris injury! Duh – know your topic before flapping your gums!

    You say Jarrett Bush played the first down pass to Heath Miller perfectly. I guess you know more than Troy Aikman, who opined Bush was in great position but failed to make a play on the ball. That’s what Bush does best – fails to make plays! Exhibit B – on the Steelers nearly successful on-side kick attempt, Clay Matthews is battling the wave to get to the ball (he tackled Ike Taylor). If you watch the replay, Bush is up front, FAILS to recognize what is happening and turns his back as the wave gets to him!

    Up to this point, I hadn’t typed a single word about Jarrett Bush. Since you decided to be his PR publicist, I thought I’d play devil’s advocate. He did not play well yesterday and your impassioned defense is illogical. It’s not coincidence that the opposition is targeting Jarrett Bush and they’ll keep doing it until he proves he’s capable of making a play.

  • Pete H

    Larrytex, I don’t know if you were trying to “bait” me personally or not with your Bush comments, but usually the baiter has the facts behind them. Bush was the nickel back for much of the ’07 season off and on until the Cowboys game when he was abused and abused and abused until he got benched. He was just “learning” then. After two years of practices, off-season regiments, pre-seasons, and spot duty…he is not still learning how to play nickel back. If that is the case then tell me how is it that 4th year defensive back should get sizzled by a rookie WR who is “just learning” the position. Did he not play football prior to getting drafted? Cmon please… Bell has been on the team for a month, Bush for 4 years…please don’t lump them together for arguments sake. Also, the key word in your BUSH INT post is NEGATED. He didn’t have one did he. It was anwfully nice catch though when an actual player made the actual football play to tip it up in the air where it ently fell in his arms. Yes, awesome job Jarrett!!!! Give that man an extension. please. You can’t seriously think that by their 4th year…the average NFL career..that a guy, other than QB, is still learning his position to that degree.

  • Pete H

    With Bell, the problem isn’t him, it was how in the hell is he on someone by himself with 8 men dropped. How is ANYONE alone in coverage, especially a guy who has been with the team a month.

  • Scot

    Put this one behind us. I was hoping for the best, but GB just wasn’t playing disciplined football on defense. I don’t like the prevent defense. They should’ve gone after Rothy more at the end. Let’s hope for a Redskins win tonight.

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    An example of why I go at length to support the Troika and players that are maligned can be found in the 11:51 post (re; why did we cut Sutton).
    Sutton didn’t play this year until the CAR starter had injuries. He then had 10 carries over the next 6 games for a total of 59 yards. Then we have to listen to “see what a nice job Sutton did for Carolina at RB. We should have kept him.”
    That, after Sutton having a wonderful day against MIN, of 2 carries for 9 yards. Wow!

  • Bob

    I’m so sick with teams going into the prevent defense, play the dam game!

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    No way to refute the early history, he played himself out of contention as nickle and dime. But, he is a long shot from Ahmad Carroll who really played himself off the team.
    Thats partly my point; in four years he has bounced between Corner and Safety along with the Specials. He tried to replace Woody when he got hurt and then got hurt himself. Then he was bounced between nickle and dime. He is here, he is learning, and if he gets replaced sobeit. It might surprise you, but you can find some highlights too if you look hard enough. But why bother when you can find a scapegoat or two to blame when things go rough for your favorite TEAM?

  • Pete H

    He has made some good plays. He has just made too many catastrophic bad ones. No he isn’t Carrol …whew.

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    No question, Pete H, on balance it looks very bad. But, while he is a Packer I’ll root for him, encourage him, and while not defending him, I will support him.

  • Pete H

    Yes, I will support him too. I will be beyond thrilled when and if he makes that play once.

  • iccyfan

    Your “point” seemingly changes as the wind blows; I guess now your point is that Jarrett Bush isn’t Ahmad Carroll. That’s relevant…

    LarryTex Says: December 20th, 2009 at 6:25 pm – “You guys drive me nuts. This is a tough ball game against the SB champs. Show a little support, you so called Packer Fans. MY ASS!”

    LarryTex Says: December 20th, 2009 at 7:11 pm – “We might not win this game, but they’re playing their hearts out. If we win it, I think half of you ought to shut up the rest of the year.”

    I ask you, are you proud of these postings? There’s nothing wrong with passionate fans complaining about features of their TEAM which might prevent that TEAM from reaching its potential. You’re probably too full of yourself to come to this conclusion, but you should be embarrased by your behavior…

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Really? A few, very few, on this site have earned that right; and those few didn’t just come on board during the Packer Express of the last 15 to 20 years.
    My point has never waived. I support the Pack, no matter what, and have not shied from criticizing things I don’t like either. Success really does spoil some people.

  • iccyfan

    There you go again – I interpret your entry as “only a few on this site have earned the right to complain about the team?” For the record, I turned 47 last Wednesday, vaguely remember the late 1960′s and have never waivered in my support of the team since 1972 (full collection of DX trading stamps). A casual acquaintance recently told me her son was to attend Elon next fall; my first thought was, “TE Rich McGeorge went to Elon” – then I snapped out of it and offered her congratulations! I’m not a casual fan, nor do I sense others on this site fit that criteria.

    Manchester United fans turned on David Beckham in a hurry when he wasn’t getting the job done and I’ve long thought Packer fans were every bit the equal of ManU fans when it came to support and passion. There’s nothing wrong with being critical of your favorite TEAM.

    I read the lemmings are starting to get restless up on the Alaskan tundra; all the mindless rodents lack is a leader to get them started on their migration to the cliffs overlooking the sea. They don’t know why they migrate or plunge willingly to their deaths, but why deviate from the course? If you’re not too busy, they’ve got a spot reserved for you in the front row right in the middle. LT = Lemming Troll

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Gee, I thought we were going to have a compromise. You support and defend the complainers and I’ll support and defend the team.
    Perhaps you might start by explaining to your buddies the difference between troll and troll. And, while you’re at it you might also do punk and punk. Ah, the English language, what a wonderful communicating device.
    I like similes as a rule but the cliff is a long way off – or is it? Could a player or two derail this train? Hmmm!

  • Servius

    We’re a year away. If we started the season in the form we’re in now, this loss included, we’d win the division.

    We’ll make the playoffs and get some playoff experience. Hopefully at least one win in the playoffs.

    I expected 9-7 at the beginning and we’ll win 10-11 games.

    Add 4 games MIN @ home, CHI @ home, CIN @ home, & @TB and that’s 14-15 wins.

    We win the division next year and are thinking of booking hotels in Tampa.

  • Pete H

    I just want to know how it is that Bell is on an island with 8 dropped in coverage? There were a lot ways that game was lost, but I just don’t get that

  • iccyfan

    So, because I fear Jarrett Bush’s presence on the field as a possible deterent to Packer Playoff Participation (hearafter known as PPP), that means I don’t support the team?

    How long must one self-identify as a Packer fan to “earn the right” to criticize the team? Are there other criteria?

    I wasn’t involved in the “punk debate”, though all the adults I knew as a child who answered to “Punk” were of the female persuassion. My younger sister had a Punky Brewster poster when she was little. I had an aunt who answered to Punk. Given the previous, I thought it was humorous when you adopted Punk as your moniker…

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    The way it was explained to me Pete, was that everybody else went to the other side of the field, but you couldn’t see it on TV.
    See, iccy, we have a generation gap. Thirty years before Punky Brewster, a punk was either a damn tough kid in my CHI neighborhood or a firecracker lighter. In any case, while I’m sure the female persuassion arguement was for my benefit, I suggest you check the females in your family. They must have been pretty tough too.
    You earn the “right” when you live through the scorn, humiliation, and ridicule of the pre and post VTL era. While you might not have been too happy in the ’80s I’m sure the ’90s relived a lot of your pain.
    Sorry, gotta do my houswork before my wife gets home so have to sign off. Besides, I’d rather listen to Rush.

  • Larry

    Back from the burgh..yes I was actually at the game seated amongst 59K steeler fans, which means about 10K no-shows. Got to listen to 3.5 hours of puke about how awful Gay is (a Steeler cornerback)..how bad the O line is for holding penalties and the 4 sacks given up. Heard how Rburger should be benched for holding the ball too much…and how lucky Pburgh was that we can’t catch the ball. Bitchin most of the game as their defense failed time and again to stop the Packers and heard how with 3 seconds to go how the Steelers would choke again to lose their 6th in a row.

    All that changed with the no time left extra point…My point is that both teams were furious with the game and that our problems are very much their problems. Except we’re 9-5 and heading toward the playoff and their not. A win would be great but this loss will make GB hungry when it needs to be and I for one now KNOW that we can score on anyone…and protect our passer against anyone.

    Who more likely to light up a 3-4 defense than Pittsburgh,,(the founder). I say this loss will serve us well, and that probably is the best thing a loss can do.

    PS it’s easy to bitch…Steeler fans do it well—try the high road for a change.

  • iccyfan

    Larry – Did you meet up with Reid for the game in Pittsburgh? Other than bitching because their team had dropped five in a row, how were the Steeler fans?

  • 4205

    The only thing prevent defense does is prevent a win. The four best cornerbacks in the league could not cover for eight seconds which is what Capers was asking backs like Bush / Bell / etc to do for the last drive.

  • Oddball

    I don’t see running scared over this loss. We played a solid team on the road and lost. It happens to most teams sooner or later.

    In a team sport this size, you’re always going to have a few things that could use with some dressing up. Facts are as follows: after finishing 6-10 last year, we’re likely to finish 10-6 this year. The defense is a work in progress and we knew it – is there any shock that Big Ben knows a thing or two about attacking a 3-4 defense?

    No way the SeaChickens get after us like he did.
    Arizona? Depends who shows up I suppose.
    Point is, we’re competitive again, and that’s a serious step in the right direction.

    Now for criticisms –
    The Oline still depends on three Sherman-era linemen to get it done. Troublesome.
    There is a problem with place kicking. Holder, kicker, snapper? Some combination?
    DBs – Bush might get away as a dime player and emergency backup, but nickel? Nope. But given the troubles we’ve had keeping DBs healthy, he might well be the best we can expect.

    Opinion from a “young buck”

    You earn the right to criticize by the validity of your criticism. A willingness to listen to another viewpoint and recognize the validity of another’s argument doesn’t hurt either. I find “seniority” to be a less than convincing argument.

  • Oddball

    Yikes. I sound like a Larry clone.

    You weren’t dating on the West side around ’67 was ya?

  • http://jlworden1suddenlink.net LarryTex

    Nah, my family left Francisco and Devon for Brookfield and then Glenview in ’40.
    Unfortunately, Oddball, I listen too much. I think your criticism is right on and reasonable given the work in progress. Specifically, Bush was given a shot in ’07 and we know how that worked out early, and then he got hurt further delaying position play in favor of STs. You can’t learn to play CB in the classroom, got to do it on the field. I’ll take logic and patience over “seniority” any day………!

  • Larry

    Iccyfan, never got a response from Reid but drank beers with some Cincinnati Packer fans while I was cookin bratz. During the tailgating the people around us were great…talked some good football and shared food, drink and FIREPIT. (Great idea for the future). Got into stadium and immediately got the Packers suck routine from young drunks above us. First play of the game I was cursing Bush more than anyone as I had to get in someone’s face to “mind his manners” around my daughter. As the drops occurred I needed to remind another Steeler fan than rooting for His team was OK, not just telling me that MY team sucked. Actually got some support from some other Steeler fans at that point.

    Heard plenty of grousing throughout the game about every aspect of the Steelers…although coming from a SB year I guess it should be expected. I left my seat right before the last play and watched it from the stairs..figured I couldn’t win either way with the drunks behind me and wanting my daughter to survive the ordeal. Treated to cheers of “swiss cheese” on the stairs and saw GB decorated truck get bombed with ice chunks.

    Pittsburgh is the same city where celebrating the Penguins SC win and Steeler SB win usually mandates turned cars, burning couches, and drunken brawls.

    In the end…the good people were great…and the ugly were drunk…and I lived in the burgh for 5.5 years and actually liked it. So don’t call me a burgh hater, please.

    Lastly, for reference…I was at a Penn State/Alabama game in 1986 AT Alabama where the final was PSU 23 and Crimson Tide 3. As we walked out…hundreds of fans sought us out to shake hands and congratulate US for having a team that that good to kick their butt.
    Alabama was ranked 1 and PSU 2 and PSU went on to win the National Championship with nary an Alabama fan but plenty of Alabama respect. Shame I didn’t see it in Pittsburgh.

    Hope to make Lambeau someday

  • Sammy

    why did we not run the ball to control the game a bit? why was grant playing wide out on at least four plays at the end of the game when jordy nelson was on the bench?

    it really looked like poor coaching, game planning, etc. we were out coached and this appears to be the consensus among the pros on the tube.