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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.packernet.com/blog/2010/02/07/super-bowl-blog-2nd-half-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-17732</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iccy, the point was Manning wasn&#039;t close to being hit and could see that Wayne couldn&#039;t get position if he took another moment. A pump fake would have cleared the DB out. Manning was smart enough to know it was a blitz and rushed his throw. The point I made is he didn&#039;t have to. He could have also grounded the ball because he still had 4th down. #12 is criticized for holding the ball too long but he doesn&#039;t throw that pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iccy, the point was Manning wasn&#8217;t close to being hit and could see that Wayne couldn&#8217;t get position if he took another moment. A pump fake would have cleared the DB out. Manning was smart enough to know it was a blitz and rushed his throw. The point I made is he didn&#8217;t have to. He could have also grounded the ball because he still had 4th down. #12 is criticized for holding the ball too long but he doesn&#8217;t throw that pass.
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		<title>By: iccyfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>iccyfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - You&#039;re still killing me!  At 6:55 yesterday the SB loss clinching interception was Reggie Wayne&#039;s fault.  You thought about it for awhile and by 7:24, evidently because you wanted to compare Favre&#039;s season ending pick to Manning&#039;s, you decided it was Manning&#039;s fault.  Today it&#039;s the coaching staff but neither Manning nor Wayne executed properly, plus Manning should have taken a hit (like Roethlisbergeror) even though he wasn&#039;t under pressure.  This after you tell me to &quot;try to be happy (to be happy) that Manning (or Favre) doesn&#039;t play for us&quot; so we don&#039;t have to be subjected to nonsense!?!  In a Yogi Berra kind of way, you rule man, you rule!!! 

Larry - I couldn&#039;t agree with you more in regards to &quot;bringing the heat&quot; versus &quot;sitting back in coverage&quot;.  Nobody has described the Saint defense as great, but Gregg Williams created turnover situations with aggressiveness.  The Saints shuffled a herd of defensive backs through the rotation this season and for the most part, got away with it.  It could work for us as well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; You&#8217;re still killing me!  At 6:55 yesterday the SB loss clinching interception was Reggie Wayne&#8217;s fault.  You thought about it for awhile and by 7:24, evidently because you wanted to compare Favre&#8217;s season ending pick to Manning&#8217;s, you decided it was Manning&#8217;s fault.  Today it&#8217;s the coaching staff but neither Manning nor Wayne executed properly, plus Manning should have taken a hit (like Roethlisbergeror) even though he wasn&#8217;t under pressure.  This after you tell me to &#8220;try to be happy (to be happy) that Manning (or Favre) doesn&#8217;t play for us&#8221; so we don&#8217;t have to be subjected to nonsense!?!  In a Yogi Berra kind of way, you rule man, you rule!!! </p>
<p>Larry &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more in regards to &#8220;bringing the heat&#8221; versus &#8220;sitting back in coverage&#8221;.  Nobody has described the Saint defense as great, but Gregg Williams created turnover situations with aggressiveness.  The Saints shuffled a herd of defensive backs through the rotation this season and for the most part, got away with it.  It could work for us as well&#8230;
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, I think it was a bad play call. Manning wasn&#039;t under that much pressure. How many times have you seen Roethlisbergeror and other QB&#039;s throw after contact. He was drifting left anyhow, no one touched him. He had a clear view of the play when Wayne failed to cut back and the play already took too much time for a down and in. He could have gone on 4th down so he wasn&#039;t desperate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, I think it was a bad play call. Manning wasn&#8217;t under that much pressure. How many times have you seen Roethlisbergeror and other QB&#8217;s throw after contact. He was drifting left anyhow, no one touched him. He had a clear view of the play when Wayne failed to cut back and the play already took too much time for a down and in. He could have gone on 4th down so he wasn&#8217;t desperate.
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,  I guess we agree to disagree...although the route was the same the formation was different with the intent of getting a different coverage.  Wayne certainly did not shield the defender at all...but as the rush closed in Manning had to throw it somewhere.  In my view it was the pressure to throw that dictated the throw.  Wayne was the closest...and perhaps the most open of the receivers given Manning could not take a sack and had only a moment left.  

The league is set up to allow elite QB&#039;s to complete 70% of their passes IF GIVEN TIME.  I firmly believe that shortening the time allows the defense the chance to cause an errant throw or poor decision.  

I can point to the GB/Pitt or GB/ARI games and even to NO/ARI game.  QB pressure was absent in all (for the most part)  and passing yards were huge.  Pressure on the QB is the key.  Lastly,  I&#039;ll bet that the team that leads in sacks each year NEARLY ALWAYS makes the playoff&#039;s...I haven&#039;t researched it but I don&#039;t believe you&#039;ll find many exceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,  I guess we agree to disagree&#8230;although the route was the same the formation was different with the intent of getting a different coverage.  Wayne certainly did not shield the defender at all&#8230;but as the rush closed in Manning had to throw it somewhere.  In my view it was the pressure to throw that dictated the throw.  Wayne was the closest&#8230;and perhaps the most open of the receivers given Manning could not take a sack and had only a moment left.  </p>
<p>The league is set up to allow elite QB&#8217;s to complete 70% of their passes IF GIVEN TIME.  I firmly believe that shortening the time allows the defense the chance to cause an errant throw or poor decision.  </p>
<p>I can point to the GB/Pitt or GB/ARI games and even to NO/ARI game.  QB pressure was absent in all (for the most part)  and passing yards were huge.  Pressure on the QB is the key.  Lastly,  I&#8217;ll bet that the team that leads in sacks each year NEARLY ALWAYS makes the playoff&#8217;s&#8230;I haven&#8217;t researched it but I don&#8217;t believe you&#8217;ll find many exceptions.
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		<title>By: Rocky70</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry PB ........... You&#039;re wrong again ........... In my post I was talking only about BF ........... Why you continue to drag other QBs into the conversation is baffling .......... The truth is still simple for the majority of football fans .......... &quot; BF will always be known as a HOF QB who choked in too many playoff games. &quot; ........... Get used to it ........... This is his legacy along with his personal &amp; emotional deficiencies ........... 

Only the &#039;die-hard&#039; ballwashers (like yourself) are still trying to sugarcoat BF&#039;s career &amp; legacy ........... Too bad .......... Your inability to realize the truth based on a long list of &#039;facts&#039; reduces the credibility of anything you post here .......... This is nothing new ......... Your posting knowledge &amp; credibility has always been suspect ........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry PB &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. You&#8217;re wrong again &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. In my post I was talking only about BF &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. Why you continue to drag other QBs into the conversation is baffling &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. The truth is still simple for the majority of football fans &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. &#8221; BF will always be known as a HOF QB who choked in too many playoff games. &#8221; &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. Get used to it &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. This is his legacy along with his personal &amp; emotional deficiencies &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. </p>
<p>Only the &#8216;die-hard&#8217; ballwashers (like yourself) are still trying to sugarcoat BF&#8217;s career &amp; legacy &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. Too bad &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Your inability to realize the truth based on a long list of &#8216;facts&#8217; reduces the credibility of anything you post here &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. This is nothing new &#8230;&#8230;&#8230; Your posting knowledge &amp; credibility has always been suspect &#8230;&#8230;..
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s irrational to go on and on about this stuff. It&#039;s the Viking&#039;s problem. I remember a QB we had years ago who could pick up a couple of yards running if he had to, not as good as an Elway or #12. But that guy is long gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s irrational to go on and on about this stuff. It&#8217;s the Viking&#8217;s problem. I remember a QB we had years ago who could pick up a couple of yards running if he had to, not as good as an Elway or #12. But that guy is long gone.
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		<title>By: iccyfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>iccyfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You slay me Mark - seriously, you just kill me!  I&#039;m irrational because I don&#039;t support the Viking QB - that&#039;s rich...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You slay me Mark &#8211; seriously, you just kill me!  I&#8217;m irrational because I don&#8217;t support the Viking QB &#8211; that&#8217;s rich&#8230;
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tip my hat to the Saints.

Hopefully TT was watching when Brees was crediting the Saints management for using free agency to turn around their organization and the city of New Orleans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tip my hat to the Saints.</p>
<p>Hopefully TT was watching when Brees was crediting the Saints management for using free agency to turn around their organization and the city of New Orleans.
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iccy, if you want to put the game losing picks into context. In one you have a young QB at the top of his profession on an ideal neutral field who hasn&#039;t been body slammed even once. Of course you don&#039;t have to be rational if you don&#039;t want to. Both QB&#039;s did the best they could and it really doesn&#039;t affect the Pack in any case. Just try to be happy to be happy neither one plays for us, if you can, and we won&#039;t have to be subjected to this nonsense anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iccy, if you want to put the game losing picks into context. In one you have a young QB at the top of his profession on an ideal neutral field who hasn&#8217;t been body slammed even once. Of course you don&#8217;t have to be rational if you don&#8217;t want to. Both QB&#8217;s did the best they could and it really doesn&#8217;t affect the Pack in any case. Just try to be happy to be happy neither one plays for us, if you can, and we won&#8217;t have to be subjected to this nonsense anymore.
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, Sims was right the first time. With one on one coverage and no deep safety Wayne should have been able to beat the coverage. No tipped ball, no throwing over the middle into traffic, no pressure, that was an ugly play. The DB knew the route and expected it, two plays earlier they ran the same one. He never gave any thought to Wayne going deep or a pump fake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, Sims was right the first time. With one on one coverage and no deep safety Wayne should have been able to beat the coverage. No tipped ball, no throwing over the middle into traffic, no pressure, that was an ugly play. The DB knew the route and expected it, two plays earlier they ran the same one. He never gave any thought to Wayne going deep or a pump fake.
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