Final word on Favre

First and foremost I am so sick of Brett Lorenzo Favre. But apparently you people aren’t. What I don’t understand is who gives a rat’s ass about a guy who hasn’t played for the Packers in two years and hasn’t played well for anybody in eight years. This is just astonishing and really reflects bad on Packers’ fans. Why you people can’t get over this is simply beyond explanation. It makes no sense. I urge all Packers’ fans to simply let the Favre lovers (and Packers haters) rant all they want but just don’t give them the satisfaction of a response. The Packers are primed for a great year and we shouldn’t be letting these bozos change the subject to Favre every two seconds. As John Rambo would say “Let…it…go!”

The Packers have playmakers at every key position and will have a new-and-improved defense to go along with one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. That is what we should be talking about. Favre is the Vikings headache now and just like last year in New York it can only end badly for him. But who cares? Only Favre lovers. And I don’t care what anybody says, there is no middle ground. Either you are with us – the real Packers fans, or you are with the terrorists, oops, the Favre lovers. Quit to trying to walk the line, because you can’t. Packers’ fans have moved on to bigger and better things, Favre fans are still harping over the events of last summer when Ted Thompson wouldn’t give into their brat from Mississippi. There is nothing worse than a Favre fan scorned.

I have to admit that I am laughing every day at the mess this already making of the Vikings. Their locker room is already divided over whether or not they should bring in Favre and the media frenzy that will follow it will only be a huge distraction. I can’t wait to watch it unfold. I just wish I could come to Packernet and talk Packers for a change. It’s up to you all, you can keeping talking about it but I’m sick of reading it, so I won’t. Say what you want, act like babies and call each other names, do it all. I don’t give a crap anymore. I haven’t blogged about Favre since May 5 and this will be my last blog entry ever about a player that doesn’t play for the Packers. You can try and egg me on but I will not comment, in fact I highly doubt I will even read any of the comments I get from this entry unless somebody complains about a vulgar post or something.

The bright side of all of this is that other than the Nick Collins and Aaron Kampman mini-controversies, there is very little to talk about in Packerland right now. Things are progressing nicely with the new defense and with running back Ryan Grant attending all the offseason activities, the offense should be even better than the unit that ranked 8th in the NFL last year even though they were only 17th in rushing. Add another season from Grant like he had in 2007 and the Packers are back in the playoffs for sure and Rodgers is a Pro Bowl selection. I’m really looking forward to seeing both play this year.

Like last year after Thompson made a huge mistake in cutting punter Jon Ryan, the Packers weakest position is again punter. Thompson needs to find a veteran, no matter how many rocks he has to overturn, the team simply can’t afford to go through another season like they did last year at that position. I was not thrilled with kicker Mason Crosby’s sophomore performance and giving him a little competition could only be a good thing as well.

Come on Packers’ fans, lets move on and worry about things that actually affect the team. If you can’t do that, I feel for you, but there are plenty of places you can get help. Admitting you have a problem is the first step. Good luck.

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  • packer_bob

    This is exactly the problem Al. Number one, you keep bringing it up. Number two, you keep making loaded comments about Favre and those of us that were/are fans.
    I don’t accept that I have to view Favre as a turncoat bastard or else I’m a Packer hater. I don’t, won’t and will it not let it go unchallenged that if I somehow still like and respect Favre that that means I don’t love the Packers. It’s flipping ridiculous that you keep bringing it up and bashing the man yet say everyone else has the problem. (You may be right about the last time you blogged about Favre but you let a mouthpiece present your view in the very last thread.)

    Anyway, moving on, I am ready for big things this year as well. I don’t know about statements like “things are progressing nicely with the defense.” How will we really know until we see it on the field? I still think we have big question marks (will Rodgers hold up, Grant’s play and the depth behind him, the O-line, the switch on defense, the age of our corners) but am cautiously optimistic about our chances to hit 9 or 10 wins and make the playoffs.

  • jonnyfootballhero

    packer_bob, thats the best post i’ve read on this site in years. keep it up!

  • http://Orlando Mark

    I feel I have to take exception to the revisionist history that #4 didn’t play well for his past 8 years. His last game in a Packer uniform was the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP game. He didn’t have a great team and his second year head coach and his staff were totally over matched by the Giants staff. Facts that were punctuated by going 6-10 the very next year without him. Let’s move on.

  • http://Orlando Mark

    Move on without kidding ourselves or making stuff up.

  • kumpala

    Favre played pretty well in his second to last game in a Packers uniform. Against Seattle I recall. Just one of those pesky facts that never seem to bother certain “fans”.

  • PH

    4-12
    8-8
    13-3
    6-10

    The pesky fact that bugs me is people forgetting that first season I listed. The same people who were upset at TT when he acknowledged the team was playing above expectations with alot of luck at 13-3 are upset when talk comes of 6-10 coming below expectations with alot of bad luck. Rodgers didn’t lead a team to 4-12, but I know someone who did just a few seasons ago! Pesky facts are hard because there are pesky facts for every case, every argument i’ve seen has some valid aspect and that makes the backs and forths just not worth it, or at least harder to ever solve.

  • Punk

    I hope I’m not being sucked in by GB media hype but Raji and Pickett on the field at the same time sounds a little like a takeoff on the “Williams Boys”. Obviously, that is wishful thinking on my part given that this lineup has to be proven, but with Jenkins in there and Jolly/healthy Harrell behind could be super. Again, hype now starting on how well Kampman is picking the system up. Also, turning around the negativity of aging corners to four really good safeties and fairly good backups at corner. I realize that I’ve got those crazy colored glasses on again, but this lineup sure looks good on paper to me.

  • Pete H

    Al, what kind of 5th grade BS is this? How is it that you can cal people out and label others and then try to act like you are above the fray? Much like just about every other damn thing on the planet it is not some black and white issue, and you of all people are certainly not the one being able to decide who is what. You truly actually think believe that because you put some blog together, which we all do appreciate, that you have some greater insight or authority than any or all of us? You’re like half of these other dolts out there that think that because they have a pulpit, they have wisdom.

  • Punk

    Looks like the OL is coming around and close to being set. AR may well be a more rounded field manager at QB, like Starr, with more short to medium and quick outs, and fewer high risk bombs. OL run blocking bound to be stronger with the bigger bodies but might cause more balls thrown away until the OT situation resolved. Does anybody like Brooks, or, does he fit in with a 3-4?

  • jackson

    Iccy- I used the term “partner” as I am politically correct, not like some redneck from Iowa. However, what term do YOU use when making love to your pig. More examples of 8th grade girls…..GO PACK!!

    PS. Not a psychiatrist, doesn’t pay enough.

  • JeffN

    First of all I agree with Pete H to a certain extent. Al, I would like to repeat how we do enjoy you haveing this blog, you just keep repeating yourself by criticizing everyone for talking about Favre and then talking about Favre yourself. When Favre signs his contract with the Vikings you and everyone else is going to be talking about it. My small piece of advice for everyone is to just accept whatever Favre does, you still don’t have to like what he does, what Favre does is out of our control. The other thing we all can’t control is everyone talking about it so might as well accept that to and not worry about it.

    Punk, you are on the right track. I think Picket Raji and Jenkins are the starters and that will nearly take away the opposing teams run completely if you think about the linebackers we have behind all that beef.

    On the other side of the ball I agree the O-Line is going to be really good this year with the coaching staff settling on the starting guys earlier this season.

  • JeffN

    I can’t believe how much I actually agree with everyone lately.

  • packer_bob

    I’m afraid I have to agree too JeffN—if Raji can be an impact rookie that sounds like alot of beef up front. And a Jenkins/Jolly/Harell added to the rotation could add up to an imposing, formidable D-line if Harell can at least be serviceable.

    I know what we have with Pickett, Jenkins and Jolly and like all three of them.

  • Punk

    Well, another thing we can probably agree on is that this Harrell’s last chance. A servicable Jolly is better than a continual rehab Harrell. But, if Harrell is even close to his potential, and I hate to use the term AWSOME, but the rest of the league LOOK OUT were coming for ya!

  • packer_bob

    When is Harrell’s contract up, anyone know?

  • iccyfan

    jackson / paul – I’d be happy to continue our exchanges of mutual disdain IF this site had personal messaging. I should have let your first comment slide without response.

    Other than it’s been reheated 20x over, I don’t know why BF should be off-topic. It’s a huge story, it directly affects the Packers and nearly everyone has a visceral reaction to it! I find it fascinating that two sides can have identical information before them and interpret things so differently. I guess that’s why I keep coming back and getting sucked into the argument! I don’t think you’ll get 150+ posts in a thread debating the merits of Barbre / Breno G / Tauscher for the vacant RT position…

  • Punk

    Don’t know about Harrell, but Collins has another year at 3.0M this year. He’d better not go through any swinging doors just yet. I think he and Jennings get done but he had better attend the the non-optional minis. Man, I wonder what happens in ’10 when the big one gets tossed around (ie: w/the Union).

  • packer_bob

    Yeah, Iccy, the Favre situation inspires a great deal of passion on both sides, that’s for sure. Had to laugh at that 150+ posts on the merits of the RT; funny because it’s so true.

    This Favre debate will continue forward for years regardless of whether he plays this year for the Vikes or not. And you’re also right in that it is silly to say we shouldn’t talk about it. I get a little bored when it degenerates into name calling and yes, most of the arguments we’ve all heard before, but it is a major story.

    Back to Harell for a minute, what happens if he gets hurt again or underperforms again this year. Does anyone thinks he gets released?

  • paul

    Iccypuss,
    Have not responded to this site for months and you are still writing about me and responding to me. I read but do not post unless attacked. I know you are in love with me but I am straight. If you would like to continue this off of this blog, I would be happy to. Just give me your information.

  • Punk

    The string will have run out………….as in (I’ve been with him all the way) GONE!

  • Devil’s Advocate…

    I read this from an article and wonder what part doesn’t Collins understand???

    Packers general manager Ted Thompson stuck with his self-imposed rule of neither confirming nor denying contract negotiations. But Thompson has a philosophy of retaining and rewarding talented players, especially those who have been with the team long enough to be proven and trusted veterans who are emerging or established leaders in the locker room and on the field.

  • Roy Jamison

    press release from 7/07
    Harrell became the 11th and final Packers draft choice to come into the fold, agreeing to a five-year contract worth between $14.5 million and $15 million with all incentives included, an NFL source said Friday. As part of the deal, which goes in the books as a six-year contract but easily voids to five, Harrell will receive around $8 million in guaranteed money.

    Yup, he’s got 3 more years left. How lucky can we get?

  • Roy Jamison

    I looked up the word cavalier.
    Maybe it should be banned from this chat area.

    haughty, disdainful, or supercilious: an arrogant and cavalier attitude toward others.

  • Punk

    Well, Roy, lets be positive then and look forward to 3 more years of outstanding DL play as part of the rotation if not a starter. Funny, if that happened he probably will be pulling a “Walker” next year. How, cool!

  • JeffN

    PackerBob, this year is Herrills last chance. Generally 1st and 2nd rounders that do not pan out get 3 seasons. I would say if he is hurt for the first 8 games he get’s released. Let’s hope he is healthy this year. If he get’s healthy I think he will be a fine player but that’s a big if.

  • Punk

    Jennings: Love the way he twisted that reporter around the pole. This guy is a real keeper. Also, if I can read between the lines he wants to be with the Packers.

  • packer_bob

    Sounds like he wants to be with the Pack to me as well.

    And really, why wouldn’t he? He’s already a big part of some historic moments and has the opportunity to play long term and establish a chemistry with a young top flight QB. The Packers are one of the premier franchises in the league and his pay would be commensurate with that of other premier receivers in the league.

    The only reason for a player not to want to play in Green Bay is if they want a big city, night life environment. From what I’ve read about Jennings, he’s not that kind of guy.

  • packer_bob

    Of course, I felt that way about Chmura when I met about two days before he was arrested for rape, so I’ll knock on wood in case lest Jennings be jinxed by me.

  • Roy Jamison

    That’s why there is a justice system. Chmura was arrested but acquitted.

  • Roy Jamison

    I have been extremely critical of the Justin Harrell pick. Injuries etc. I have said that had nothing to do with him personally.
    Recently this came out in the GB Gazette:
    “Whether it carries over to the season remains to be seen. Harrell admitted his weight again has ballooned to 325 pounds — “Eating too much barbeque last week; I won’t do it again,” he said — and he has a history of having setbacks just when he seems to be past an injury.”

    Come on, Justin, you have been hurt are earning big bucks and you can’t stay in shape? There a lack of brain matter here.

  • Punk

    We maybe witness to a couple of interesting phenoms this year. Compare the relative fortunes and attitudes and where they are in their careers. On the one hand Raji:Harrell and on the other Jennings:Collins. Raj has Pickett, Harrell had the guy that went to CLE. Jennings has Driver and Collins (?) You’d think somebody at position would grab these guys, shake ‘em good and push them around the locker room. Here again, we’re probably totally void of info as to what goes on in a NFL locker room. Somehow, though I’ve got to think REAL attitude gets known upstairs in the office and is taken into account at contract renewal time. I wonder how many players are moved because of whats above the shoulders.

  • packer_bob

    Roy, I understand Chmura was acquitted and am not calling him a rapist. I don’t know whether he did it or not.

    But it bothers me when a guy that presented himself as an upstanding citizen (I believe there was talk of him running for office back then) and who I personally heard invoke the Lombardi legend and Green Bay tradition for “teaching me to carry myself like a champion” is pictured in an orange jumpsuit in my local paper two days later.

    At the very least he was guilty of being drunk in a hot tub with a high school girl at 3 in the morning. This level of hypocrisy is deeply troubling to me and I hope it’s nothing we ever have to discuss with Jennings.

  • JeffN

    I think people are misreading what Collins said. When asked about his contract he basically said “talk to my agent talk to Ted, I don’t talk about contracts” Basically his way of saying, I don’t want to talk to you and you don’t know what your talking about to the reporters.

    When they asked him again he said “we will see” that was a challenge to the reporters telling them they are wrong in what there are interperating and they don’t know what they are talking about. Basically him saying they will be proved wrong when he shows up for training camp. That is how I took when I watched the whole interview. Reporters took that one and ran with it as he might not actually show up. I think what was going through Collins mind was yeah right whatever. Just watch the whole video it’s on the home page of Packers.com

    Collins is a more private person and didn’t want to talk about his contracts or his family issues. I think he had a family member pass away recently.

  • packer_bob

    Thought I’d post this before someone else does: Link to MSN’s list of top 10 NFL divas.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/pgStory?contentId=9667026&gt1=39002#sport=NFL&photo=9668818

    I think most of you can guess what I think about it. I’m still convinved the media keeps plastering this stuff on the wall because they know it is good for ratings and clicks.

  • Kevin Roth

    Sorry Al, I’ll try to come to terms with it :)

    P.S. I’m not Al’s mouthpiece.

  • JeffN

    Top 10 Divas, that is funny stuff. Favre beats out T.O. That is hilarious!

  • packer_bob

    I actually thought it was funny, too, in a perverse sort of “Oh, yeah, right!” kind of way.

    If you read what was actually written about Favre, it looks like a mashup of Al and Rocky70’s posts so obviously I don’t agree with any of it. Perhaps they hacked they hacked into the MSN sports section?

  • packer_bob

    Looks like we re-signed Jennings, according to a media report! That’s one thing I’m sure we can all agree on calls for a celebration!

  • http://Orlando Mark

    I would just like to give TT credit for signing Jennings and continuing a very encouraging off season.

  • JeffN

    Ok great deal on resigning Jennings. Everyone loves this.

    So Jennings deal is for $9 million average per year through 2012 so they go from 27 million to 18 million under the cap. So how many more of their existing veterans can they resign with that $18 million under the cap over the next 2 or 3 years? 3 guys maybe 6 guys. I suppose that depends on the calibur of players and size of contract.

    So that begs the question who are those next guys going to be that get resigned? What do you guys all think?

  • JeffN

    Yeah Mark I agree very good off season this year. Even tho they didn’t sign any big names. Although there is a rumor out there that Julius Peppers wants to be traded to either Green Bay or Kansas City, I don’t think Carolina is interested in trading him so it’s probably not going to happen.

  • packer_bob

    I don’t think I’m that interested in Peppers. He was on that top 10 Diva list, lol!

    Just trying to be funny, but seriously, for the money he’d demand I want a guy that comes to play all the time.

    And for the record, let me say it again, despite my problems with TT over the years I am pretty damn happy with this off season.

    As far as who the guys are, JeffN, obviously that has alot to do with the upcoming season. I have seen the list of players that are up after this season but can’t remember them all right now and am too lazy to look it up. I’d say that anyone that is getting old in football years is going to have a hard time getting money from the Ted Thompson piggy bank, just going on the track record.

    Not that I doubted for a second that Jennings would be taken care of, but I’m very happy it’s done and behind us. Hopefully years from now we will be talking about Rodgers/Jennings in the rarefied air of QB/WR combos like Montana/Rice or Manning/Harrison. I’d settle for Favre/Freeman.

    We should have some exciting hook ups to watch for a long time now!

  • Richard Krause

    A short time into the 2009 season, BLF will become the NFL’s longest consecutive game leader. Ironically, he will replace the Viqueen’s Jim Marshall for that honor and maybe BLF will surpass Marshall’s other notable honor, running the wrong way after a fumble recovery.

  • iccyfan

    JeffN Says: “So how many more of their existing veterans can they resign with that $18 million under the cap over the next 2 or 3 years? 3 guys maybe 6 guys. I suppose that depends on the calibur of players and size of contract. So that begs the question who are those next guys going to be that get resigned? What do you guys all think?”

    That’s an excellent question which might not be clear for some time. Ted has been drafting for depth / development since the day he got here, likely because he knows he can’t resign all the vets. Darren Colledge, Chad Clifton & Jason Spitz are coming up with Lang, Meredith & Giacomini being groomed. Colledge & Spitz are TT guys and relatively young; I’d guess they get resigned and Chad is probably on the street. Kampman is a FA in 2010, with Jeremy Thompson & Clay Matthews in the wings. My guess is that Nick Collins & Colledge are next in line for extensions while this is probably the last season we’ll see Clifton & Kampman as Packers…

  • Punk

    Lew, not really a great post but I realize you’ve only had two days to put it together. Your last post was pretty good too; “What a absolutely retarded post pack4life” on June 9th. Since you are an evaluator of others entelligence where do you place yourself on that list? Missed you!

  • Punk

    Oops; “i” in intelligence, damned, now I’m at the bottom. What Lew never realized over the last few months was that to be attacked by him was a compliment.

  • Roy Jamison

    I didn’t figure it out till now, cuz I’m a little slow, that Al’s title above “Final Word on Favre” wasn’t really that final.

  • JeffN

    Lew says, “I’m done trying to make other people realize their errors”

    It took this long to figure out out you can’t do that on this blog?! A lot of intelligence packed into that how many years of analysis it took you to figure that out.

  • JeffN

    Icy, that makes sense with basically our 2 best o-lineman College and Spitz and they are young. It will be interesting to see what they do with Picket and Kampan for sure next year.

    I think they are going to wait and see if Collins can put together 2 seasons in a row like the one he had last year before throwing a big contract at him. If he doesn’t sign next season I suppose they franchise tag or transition tag him if he plays up to pro bowl calibur again this year and then work out a contract from there.

  • Punk

    I thought an interesting comment by MM re practice field and stadium having same surface. I’m no trainer, but could this lead to fewer injuries? There are so many things going on away from the playing field. I realize the payoff is on Sundays but the prep, from conditioning to playbook, must go a long way to improve the players and be the coachs real forte. Then comes the game and one mistake can screw it all up. But, then, thats the game; the real unknown and crazy bounces to boot.

  • Roy Jamison

    I’m guessing that it would be good to prevent turf toe and stuff like that. Plus, it makes sense that the “feel” you get in practice is the same as on gameday.

    This news story from 12/06.
    As field crews re-sodded the middle strip of the field this week – an annual late-season ritual – in preparation for the club’s final two home games, the team announced Thursday that it will replace the grass with DD GrassMaster, a natural grass surface reinforced with man-made fibers, which the team installed on the Clarke Hinkle practice field prior to its 2005 training camp. A new drainage and heating system also will be installed.

    “This is Lambeau Field, for goodness sakes. We should have the best field we can possibly put in here,” said general manager Ted Thompson, who made the final decision. “Our field has been OK this year because we’ve had pretty good weather, but late in the season when we have to re-sod, then you run the risk of (problems with) player safety and the quality of the game.

  • packer_bob

    You never know what you have until you see it on the field of battle, boys!

  • Roy Jamison

    Who says our gm doesn’t spend money?
    Greg Jennings is now one of the NFL’s highest paid WR’s.

    ESPN has just reported that a contract has been finalized that will pay him $27 million in “new money” through 2012.

    The contract calls for roughly $16 million in guarantees.

  • Punk

    The most encouraging thing I read coming out of camp is that the coaching staff are putting in schemes that fit the talent. That seems to be happening on the OL as well as the DL. I know the injuries last year had both groups jumping all over the place, but at least through the abreviated camps it looks like the 1s and 2s are staying in position. You’d think that would really help guys like Raji, Moll, and Barbre, although Raji has three different rolls. Insofar as the LBs are concerned, thats where the most change will be with the coverage assignments. p_b is so right, but I’m getting that ol feel’in again. Yeah, just like the beginning of last year………!

  • BillyRay

    “The most encouraging thing I read coming out of camp is that the coaching staff are putting in schemes that fit the talent.”

    I agree. That’s never been done before. NFL coaches usually look at their talent and then put in schemes that don’t fit.

  • Kelly

    Garbage Article…Farve is the same man we loved over the years.

    Favre rules….always has….always will.

    Get a life.

  • Punk

    Confused again! Peppers stays in CAR, but one of the reasons given for why he wanted out was to play 3-4 rather than 4-3. Trgovac was CAR DC last year and they play 4-3. Capers was brought in to convert to 3-4; so why is T brought in as DL coach in Capers’ new 3-4?

  • JeffN

    Punk, I was wondering the same thing. The only thing I can guess is he is there as a technique coach while Capers teaches assignments/roles for the D-Line maybe. Or another possibility is maybe they are going with the philosophy that great coaches will be great coaches no matter what the scheme kind of like they have been saying players will be great players no matter what the scheme.

    Did Trgovac coach in a 3-4 before he was in Carolina? I guess I’m just kind of speculating on things.

  • Pack4life

    I am happy they are pairing RAJI AND Pickett. Also Remember the Pro Bowl C Matt Birk is No longer a Viking. Things are definitely looking better in the trenches

  • iccyfan

    I was thinking about Nick Collins and the notes that say he hasn’t ruled out boycotting training camp if his contract isn’t extended. I like NC but feel he’s being very well compensated ($3M+) at a position where the average salary is shy of $1M (per SI.com). The best in the business, Troy Polamalu, will make $4.625M / year.
    Brian Dawkins is getting a little old but he’s making $3M with the Broncos this season.
    I guess I’m conflicted as to what I’d have the Packers do with Collins and I’m wondering what others think on this topic. I don’t want to see them extend him Polamalu money on the strength of one season (at the opportunity cost of being unable to bring back other important contributors). Opinions?

  • Pack4life

    Say what you want about Nick Collins he is light years ahead of Marquan Manuel and Mark Roman. I believe we dont want to go down that road again i.e. Anthony Smith.

  • Punk

    Maybe so Pack4, but is he light years ahead of Bigby, Woodson, Smith, Rouse, Bush, and Peprah? Not to mention no rookie in that bunch. I think Collins better think very carefully about his real bargaining position with potentially 3M in his pocket and GB with a lot of options. Remember, he is trying to bargain with only one good year. A lot of people are down on Bush, but he hasn’t settled in on one position yet, so have his mistakes been mental rather than physical?

  • BillyRay

    Stop knocking Ted. He’s won almost half his games. That’s better than you would do.

  • http://Orlando Mark

    When TT took over one of his first moves was to dump Sharper. He’d already cost us a high draft pick and took years and a lot of money to develop. Needless to say TT’s low cost replacements were failures and were part of our 4-12 disaster the next season. Punk, maybe you haven’t seen Bush and Smith play. I have, and I was hoping to get rid of Bush the way the Steelers did with Smith. Bigby had a tough ’08, Rouse has some talent but wasn’t steady and Woodson was tried at safety and is better at corner. Talk about cost, what’s the price of losing a good player who’s actually performed well. I hope we can sign Collins and start building a nucleus of young capable players.

  • Matt Hayton

    My take on Collins is that they should re-sign him mid-year only if he picks up the 34. If he can’t learn his role in the new D, then let him walk. But if he can prove he wasn’t a 1-yr. Wonder, then go ahead and pay the man. Safeties that QB the DBs & make 7-10 picks a year don’t grow on trees…

  • BillyRay

    “What I don’t understand is who gives a rat’s ass about a guy who hasn’t played for the Packers in two years?”

    A website that devotes two full editorials to the guy over the span of six days?

  • http://Orlando Mark

    BillyRay, most of us would rather post about the Pack. I don’t get it either. BTW do you think Collins is a one year wonder or do you think it took 3 years to get him up to full speed and we just shouldn’t throw that away?

  • Bill

    Favre rules? Wow! Dug deep in the archives for that one. How mature.

  • BillyRay

    Mark,

    I think Ted needs more time to develop Collins.

    I also think Ted needs more time to develop a winning record.

    After four season he’s won almost half his games.

    He easily deserves another four years to see if he can get to .500.

  • Bill

    BillyRay,

    I think you are an idiot. The guy asked you a simple question and all you can do is bash Thompson. It is people like you that are the problem, you just can’t let it go. And you think you are being cute. That is hilarious.

    Mark,

    The question you raised is exactly what the Packers are debating behind closed doors. I think you need to tread softly with Collins, he could be another Cletidus Hunt. At times he appears a few fries short of a Happy Meal.

  • iccyfan

    Mark & Matt H – I guess we don’t have any idea what Collins’ agent is seeking per year in a contract extension. A couple seasons ago, Archuleta was making $5M / year – JOKE; Adrian Wilson of the Cardinals was over $4M. As noted earlier, the Steelers are paying Polamolu $4.65M. I expect Collins’ agent will be in that vicinity. They could roll the dice, see how he plays this season and tag him. I guess I’d rather see them go that route than give him “franchise tag” money based on one season’s performance…

  • BillyRay

    Bill,

    Who do you think is better? Ray Rhodes or Ted Thompson? I say Ray Rhodes. He batted .500.

  • Mel e Mel

    Nick Collins has the most range of any safety in football this side of Ed Reed. Anthony Smith is a bum see the tape vs. NE when he mouthed off. Rouse is a nice player but more of a centerfielder. Bigby is an enforcer. Collins turned several games for the Pack last year with a very tepid pass rush in front of him. With an improved Front 7 Collins could be on the verge of superstardom.

  • BillyRay

    I think Ted should play baseball; he’s batting almost .500.

  • CJ

    I’m looking for a 9-7 year. Make the playoffs but lose the first game. THat will set up nice for next year.

  • mnpackerbacker

    I couldn’t agree more. All of you Favre fans should just buy your purple 4 jerseys and stay off the packer bandwagon for good. We don’t need fair weather fans like you. All of these years, you’ve worshiped Favre first and Packers second. Now that he’s wearing purple, you will all be forced to show your true colors. Anyone that says they hope Favre beats the Packers IS NOT A PACKER FAN. PERIOD. Just get this straight…when Favre finally admits he’s lost it sometime this year or next, and Aaron Rogers becomes a perrenial pro-bowl QB…don’t come crawling back. Just like Favre, you will be the Bennedict Arnolds of the football world without fan nation to call your own. You belong together.

  • TRIP

    I haven’t paid this blog any mind since last season. But I’ve found it quite interesting that Al is allowed to have 5 or 6 FINAL words on Favre, but once Favre changes a decision, he’s Satan. Bottom line is, if an NFL team wants a particular player and hunts down the player in the matter the Vikings have Favre, he has every right to play. Just because he’s an NFL superstar does not change that right. Plenty of good players have gone through this process at the end of their careers, the only difference with Favre is, people care. Favre isn’t doing interviews, seeking attention, anything. There’s just a good chance he’ll be suited up next season. He lead a previously failing Jets team to 9-3 last year, got hurt, and went to 9-7. If he’s back to the condition he was when that season started, the Vikings are idiots to not try to get the old man, especially given their QB situation. Look back to the Broncos that beat us, old men throwing the ball and young, explosive RBs can get the job done. Al, please, let this be the final “final”.

  • mnpackerbacker

    Al, you were right all along. All of your naysayers can suck carrots.